Julia Wallace Murder Case

[Rhoobarb]

Bloody hell Ged, some work that, nice one.

Will be reading more ater i've put the kids to bed.

Cheers

[Rhoobarb]

Not had a chance to read it all yet Ged but cracking stuff so far.

One thing though, you did remember to mention that RM Qualtrough produced the last Half Man Half Biscuit album didn't you?

[lindylou]

John doh, I think it can only be a problem associated with the browser you opened it up in or something but I do know what you mean because when viewing it on somebody elses computer the same thing happened to me. It seems the rest on here though and on other forums have thankfully not been troubled by it.

Unfortunately it's the same for me too - the text is chopped off in parts and overlaid in others so it's dificult to make out. But I know the story well and can predict most of what its meant to say

Well done though Ged & Mark for putting in all the hard work to produce it.

[Ged]

Linda, if you open it in firefox like John has since done, it's all ok. It's your browser.

Cheers,

Ged.

[John Doh]

Well I won't be listening to Tom Slemen. I read one of his books once, and it was a load of tosh. That's just my opinion of course, because he is certainly popular with lots of people. I also know who he named as the murderer of Julia............tosh again.

Hear, hear, BH! Tom Slemen tells stories well, but I thought Ged and Mark Russell were trying to do some serious historical research here. Maybe the intermediary for the radio broadcast should have been Roger Phillips rather than Billy Butler!

[lindylou]

Linda, if you open it in firefox like John has since done, it's all ok. It's your browser.

Cheers,

Ged.

We use Google Chrome. Will give Firefox a try.

[Mark R]

Thank you everyone for your replies.

I offered Radio Merseyside the chance for Mark Russell to talk about it, in fact I think I brought the anniversary to their attention - trust be known, but it seems they've plumped for Tom Slemen who has turned from ghosts into detective with his sidekick Keith Andrews. Tom has his own murder suspect whom he named on his site and then had to remove it as this person's family threatened libel legal action.

It will be therefore interesting to hear what he has to say.

Yes, it seems Radio Merseyside are wrapped up in their own cocoon Ged. Yes, you brought it to their attention and what do they do? Have to let a 'celebrity' get in on the act. Don't get me wrong, I am not saying I would offer anything but I would try and give credence to the case. It seems to have degenerated into a tabloid-type phenomenon. Great work with the site btw

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If Wallace had wanted to kill her, surely he would have used something from his knowledge of chemistry

Yes, I agree burkhilly. I have always been of the opinion that Wallace would have used an easier, far less complicated method of dispatching his wife. As it stands, from a Wallace point of view, it was such a messy, error strewn, possibly anything-could-have-gone-wrong way of killing. If he wanted to get rid of her, why not go on a coastal holiday and push her off a deserted clifftop? Sure, there would be a few doubters but not as many as the method used in bludgeoning.

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A new Wallace author, (when the book finally comes out) John Gannon (about the 20th writer on the subject) names yet another suspect and the reasons why (supposedly). I've seen who he names and without seeing the reasons why, it looks suspect in itself. I emailed John via the crimespace site but as yet no reply. Notice you've been on it too burkhilly.

I'm wondering if Gannon has been on this and other forums under a 'username' Ged. I recall someone pumping me for information about certain things in recent years. I've no problem with that but I do have a problem if it is him and he doesn't give credit or make any acknowledgement to the contributors on this forum. The people on this forum are very informed on the case. I'm sure the suspect Gannon claims to have committed it will be Joseph Marsden. If I am correct he is to claim that he was being blackmailed regarding sex...Dear oh dear - I cannot believe a 28 year old man would be having a sexual relationship with a 68-69 year old woman...Nothing new there. Marsden was a suspect at the time.

[IAN DAVID FRYER]

Very many thanks to GED & MARK R for posting the excellent THE WALLACE MURDER CASE, took me an hour to read it as its 47 pages long(just printed off a copy!) Glad the forum on the case has started up again as I thought it had just died off. I was intending to walk round Wolverton Street next Thursday at 6.30,as I did last year..it's very atmospheric even after all this time. I would prefer to reserve judgement on John Gannon's book till I have read a copy when it is published...he has certainly put a great deal of time & effort into it ..as of course you 2 have!!For an update visit [url]htmlhttp://www.beatlesliverpoolandmore.com/cold-case-closed-julia-wallace-and-the-devil-in-the-detail.html. I have always been of the opinion that WHW didnt(couldnt!!) have actually battered JULIA to death..but obviously somebody did,so I keep an open mind. I cant really see a sexual motive as a possible reason for blackmail..especially as we now know JULIA was nearly 70! But both Marsden & Parry seem to have been at least light-fingered!! FJumble

[burkhilly]

I've just posted on Casebook Forums the link for this. Hope you don't mind Ged and Mark.

Ian I bet you wish you could go back 80 years to walk Wolverton Street on the fateful Thursday evening - I know I would.

[IAN DAVID FRYER]

Thanks BURKHILLY..YES, I would..my interest stems from my fathers obsession with the case....he was at school at St.Margarets at the time of the murder. The thing that amazed me during last year's visit at 6.30 was that it was so quiet,so relatively unchanged & so dark!! I always had in my minds eye the lugubrious WHW shuffling out after his tea in daylight..probably influenced by dramatisations. Strange that the wonderful actor who played WHW in the Radio City WHO KILLED JULIA(the great Pete Postlethwaite) & the now Susanna Yorke who of course was a bit too glamorous as AMY WALLACE in "THE MAN FROM THE PRU" should both pass away within days of each other..more for TOM SLEMEN to make something of!!! IAN(FJumble)

[Mark R]

Thanks Ian. No, that's fine burkhilly! Cheers.
Ian: yes, you're right re: Pete Postlethwaite & Susannah York. January 10th saw also the three year anniversary of the death of Goodman and it would have been his 80th birthday yesterday (17th). He was born three days before the murder. It must be that time of the year January!!

[lindylou]

Spooky

[Ged]

Yes also when Wallace tracked back and turned right into Menlove Gardens West and to the corner of Dudlow Lane. He came across 23 year old clerk Sydney Hubert Green. Wallace asked him directions but Green notified Wallace that there is no ‘East’ as far as he was aware. Green was to later become the General Manager of the MDHB died in 1981 on the 50th anniversary of the murder itself which was also the very date of the Radio City Roger Wilkes re-enactment.

[Ged]

Having seen the site, Billy Butler's producer has been in touch with Mark and myself to go into the studio tomorrow to discuss the case between 3 and 4pm. Regretfully, due to lack of bodies in our office, I cannot make it, not even an early dart as the ferry bookings start about 3pm onwards. However, Mark, who is also busy tomorrow, can put aside some time so please listen out. He being the real man in the know out of us two anyway will be far better to listen to and i'm looking forward to hearing it on the listen again facility tomorrow night.

[John Doh]

Spooky

Spooky too that Tom Slemen's been struck down by the lurgy, incapacitating him just before he was due to go on air tomorrow...