Wirral Closed Lines & Tunnels

[Waterways]

Apologies for moving the thread OT... (Where else can we discuss this?)



Better to reinstate the dock branch track along Beaufort Road to Bidston. Else use the track at Bidston Dock-Birkenhead North, then join to the north side of East & West float. Which then gives Wirral Waters access from West Kirby, New Brighton, Deeside etc. Otherwise you'd be wasting town-central real estate & have Wirral Waters only inwards facing Liverpool, not with a railway facing the rest of Wirral! The Canning St. North-Mollington Link track would be better put to use for the Wirral Transport Museum. Also, will Lime Street be big enough, in the future, to serve the area as the only mainline inter-city terminus? If Wirral Waters is going to be big, then stick an inter-city rail terminus on the right (i.e. the left!) side of the river.

This doesn't make sense. Wirral Waters has to face Liverpool and be connected by rapid-transit rail to Liverpool Waters, Liverpool city centre and the airport. Otherwise it will flop. Developers most certianly will not spend unless rapid-transit rail is run in - as was the case in London Docklands.

To get to south Wirral is easy and no station change. To get to West Kirkby, etc, there is one change at Hamilton Square. All done cheaply and easily by connecting with Merseyrail at Mollington St/B'head Central.

Attempting to get Wirral Waters to make Wallasey/B'head as some sort of rival city to Liverpool will not work. The Wirral in effect is a suburb of Liverpool. It must integrate with Liverpool first and foremost as it will become the centre of the Wirral.

Also, will Lime Street be big enough, in the future, to serve the area as the only mainline inter-city terminus? If Wirral Waters is going to be big, then stick an inter-city rail terminus on the right (i.e. the left!) side of the river.

The idea was that only one mainline station would serve the area. Lime St can cope with more traffic with greater throughput by using Edge Hill as a staging area for waiting trains, that means trains only drop off and load and do not wait around. Local services can be removed from the station by reusing either Wapping or Waterloo tunnels taking the trains from the east into Central or Waterloo Dock. This releases platforms at Lime St.

The Wirral does not need an inter-city station at all, as Lime St is a few minutes away by metro.