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    Quote Originally Posted by Waterways View Post
    You to shift fans fast. Only rapid-transit high throughput station can shift 30,000-40,000 an hour. Trams will shift jack ****, and cause traffic jams.

    The city has rapid transit rail so let's use it.
    I knew u'd rise to the tram comment

    Out of interest how close are the big US stadia to public transport. I would think that's the model to follow


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    Quote Originally Posted by scouse smurf View Post
    I knew u'd rise to the tram comment

    Out of interest how close are the big US stadia to public transport. I would think that's the model to follow
    Since American Football lasts so long the arrivals are probably staggered more. Also the car would absolutely predominate. Massive parking lots

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    Quote Originally Posted by scouse smurf View Post
    I knew u'd rise to the tram comment

    Out of interest how close are the big US stadia to public transport. I would think that's the model to follow
    Most of the US stadiums rely on the car. They generally have motorway access. They have the space and they were from an earlier time, not too worried about carbon footprint etc.

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    Quote Originally Posted by scouse smurf View Post
    I knew u'd rise to the tram comment

    Out of interest how close are the big US stadia to public transport. I would think that's the model to follow
    The model to follow is common sense. Wembley and the O2 Arena is the model. They shift the fans like zippo.

    I can't believe anyone would ever argue about not incorporating rapid-transit rail as part of a design.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Waterways View Post
    The model to follow is common sense. Wembley and the O2 Arena is the model. They shift the fans like zippo.

    I can't believe anyone would ever argue about not incorporating rapid-transit rail as part of a design.
    So what u're suggesting is we build a big white elephant for some millenium event, using lots of public money, and then wait for someone to think of an idea to use it or build a stadium which results in the team not being able to sign many world class players and falling away in the league

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    Quote Originally Posted by scouse smurf View Post
    So what u're suggesting is we build a big white elephant for some millenium event, using lots of public money, and then wait for someone to think of an idea to use it or build a stadium which results in the team not being able to sign many world class players and falling away in the league
    Don't woory it won't happen. Nobody's got the money

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    Quote Originally Posted by petromax View Post
    Don't woory it won't happen. Nobody's got the money
    I'm not worried about it, I just think WW should realise that these places are in the country's capital and unfortunately that comes with lots of benefits that no other city gets

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    Quote Originally Posted by scouse smurf View Post
    I'm not worried about it, I just think WW should realise that these places are in the country's capital and unfortunately that comes with lots of benefits that no other city gets
    Since when has only the capital had the benefit of common sense, and no one else?
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    Quote Originally Posted by scouse smurf View Post
    So what u're suggesting is we build a big white elephant for some millenium event
    I was? 2000 was nine years ago.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Waterways View Post
    I was? 2000 was nine years ago.
    has it started making money yet ? if so, how much of the building costs were written off ?

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    Quote Originally Posted by scouse smurf View Post
    has it started making money yet ? if so, how much of the building costs were written off ?
    What are you babbling about?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Waterways View Post
    What are you babbling about?
    What I'm babbling on about is the glowing example u've given cost a lot of money, which I don't think has been gained back yet (I could be wrong)

    I agree about the joint stadium idea though but think it should be in stanley park

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    Quote Originally Posted by scouse smurf View Post
    What I'm babbling on about is the glowing example u've given cost a lot of money, which I don't think has been gained back yet (I could be wrong)

    I agree about the joint stadium idea though but think it should be in stanley park
    But there is no rapid-transit rail link and the stadium is in a grade 2 listed Victorian park and surrounded by residential houses. It is a very poor location, yet the city in their wisdom gave planning permission, but only for 60,000 and rapid-transit rail has to be there to go above and LFC want 73,000.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Waterways View Post
    But there is no rapid-transit rail link and the stadium is in a grade 2 listed Victorian park and surrounded by residential houses. It is a very poor location, yet the city in their wisdom gave planning permission, but only for 60,000 and rapid-transit rail has to be there to go above and LFC want 73,000.

    In case u've not noticed, we don't totally agree with the train link being essential, it's a nice to have at best, and we know ur opinion that it's essential.

    I only think it's the best place because that's pretty much were the grounds are now. After seeing were Espanyol's new ground is then if I had to choose anywhere, then like u said earlier I'd suggest somewhere near the airport

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    Quote Originally Posted by scouse smurf View Post
    In case u've not noticed, we don't totally agree with the train link being essential, it's a nice to have at best, and we know ur opinion that it's essential.
    Do you think we should scrap buses as well?
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