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    Default OS trig point or boundary marker ?

    Spotted on Smithdown Rd, L7 against the Toxteth Park Cemetery wall. It says on the base "Erected 1866". What is it? Sited opposite block between Cranbourne Rd and Salsbury Rd
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    Quote Originally Posted by taffy View Post
    Spotted on Smithdown Rd, L7 against the Toxteth Park Cemetery wall. It says on the base "Erected 1866". What is it? Sited opposite block between Cranbourne Rd and Salsbury Rd
    Same as this, Taffy, right?

    http://www.toxteth.net/places/liverp...y%20marker.htm

    Any reason to think it is not a boundary marker for Toxteth Park?

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    Quote Originally Posted by ChrisGeorge View Post
    Same as this, Taffy, right?

    http://www.toxteth.net/places/liverp...y%20marker.htm

    Any reason to think it is not a boundary marker for Toxteth Park?

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    Paul Christian of toxteth.net sometimes just writes his own assumptions without checking the facts.
    I'm not sure about the Lower Brook, but the OS map shows that the boundary crosses the road at that exact spot, and continues towards town down that pavement as opposed to the other side of the road.
    My assumption is that it marks the boundary between the other two districts which he's marked in red.
    With him writing 'stone' he's obliterated what reads on my map: "Union Divn. of Parly. Boro. & Ward Bdy." (Union [Division?] of Parliamentary, Borough and Ward Boundary).
    The key word here is Union, because if you follow the Boundary north to Cadogan Street you can see that the word 'Union' is missing.
    http://www.toxteth.net/maps/liverpool/lpool1g.htm
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    Default Boundary Marker

    Quote Originally Posted by ChrisGeorge View Post

    Any reason to think it is not a boundary marker for Toxteth Park?

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    Yes I did think it was a boundary marker but with the comments on OS trig points, I began to wonder. The L7 post code boundary along this section of Smithdown Rd follows the old West Derby/ Toxteth boundary up to the appropriately named Boundary Pub at the junction of Lodge Lane and Smithdown Rd. Most of the L7 terraced houses off Smithdown Rd are due to demolition. Sad really as many of these seem to be in good condition but have fallen foul of the the "New Heartlands" Government demolition policy.
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    Does 'Boundary Lane' off West Derby Road have anything to do with boundary markers ? (A-Z page 46...4A)
    Just done a search and can find no mention of it.

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    Default Boundary Lane

    Quote Originally Posted by phredd View Post
    Does 'Boundary Lane' off West Derby Road have anything to do with boundary markers ? (A-Z page 46...4A)
    Just done a search and can find no mention of it.

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    This looks like the boundary between Everton and West Derby. There are several other similarly named streets in the Liverpool area.

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    Came across this one on sunday >>>>>>
    Has it been found and put on another thread ?

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    Default Dingle Esplanade sign

    Quote Originally Posted by phredd View Post
    Came across this one on sunday >>>>>>
    Has it been found and put on another thread ?

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    Not seen this one before Phredd. Where exactly is it?

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    Quote Originally Posted by taffy View Post
    Not seen this one before Phredd. Where exactly is it?
    By the BLUE STAR Line funnel, on the Prom just along from the pub on Riverside Drive. Its set in the wall.

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    Quote Originally Posted by phredd View Post
    By the BLUE STAR Line funnel, on the Prom just along from the pub on Riverside Drive. Its set in the wall.

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    Thanks Phredd. I'm surprised Dingle hasn't been amended to Aigburth !!!

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    I think the reason the name has not been changed is because it is the given name to that part of the esplanade :- "The Dingle Esplanade" and not to the district.
    Just my thoughts
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    Quote Originally Posted by phredd View Post
    Taffy
    I think the reason the name has not been changed is because it is the given name to that part of the esplanade :- "The Dingle Esplanade" and not to the district.
    Just my thoughts
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    It was just a joke Phredd. I had visions of the illegal graffiti type of alteration rather than any official change. I do know the locals kicked up a fuss when the Dingle district sign was put up on nearby Riverside Drive last year. It's now been resited much closer to the City centre. Not sure who this satisfies as it still implies that Sefton Street and Riverside Drive are in the Dingle !!

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    It was the Dingle end of the completion of Otterspool Promenade to tie in with the International Garden Festival of 1984.
    At least common sense prevailed in the naming of it.
    As I keep saying, if all the 'nice' (ie new estates) parts of the Dingle would proudly call themselves Dingle, then the rest of Liverpool would see that the name 'Dingle' refers to an area rich in variety.
    But it's not going to happen when parts of the Dingle have even managed to get an L3 postcode, or people even say they live in Otterspool (let alone Aigburth)! As one ex-member of this forum who lived in Riverside kept insisting, and who put her location as Otterspool!
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    Here's a plaque on the Boundary Bridge that goes over the Leeds & Liverpool canal on Boundary St near the junction with Vauxhall Road.
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    Salisbury Stone, Lake Road Playground
    Here's the Stone mentioned on page 1 of this thread. There are also a couple of small stones on the corner of the playground near to the Monks' Well. I don't know if they are of any significance, but they seem to be placed there deliberately.
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