Exactly! Something unique. However these money grabbing sharks keep filling in water spaces, so we will end up with an anytown full of retail sheds.Originally Posted by Spike
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Do you work for Peel? Something tells me you do. No one with any knowledge of Liverpool, its heritage, the city and dock waterways system would conclude we need to fill-in any more water spaces. The amount already filled has got beyond a joke. Many wanted the Albert Dock dynamited into the docks. Look what we have! They managed to demolish the Brindley warehouses and a whole dock district called Nova Scotia. The line has to be drawn.
You must work for Peel or British Waterways or made/make money from them to make such an ill-informed comment.The amount of water infilled is pretty small considering there are seven and half miles of docks on the Liverpool side alone and a drop in a bucket compared to anything but (pick a small port).
Belwo; the south end docks that have been infilled. Manchester Dock and Chester basin on not titled, they are at the top near the Pier Head. That OVER HALF of the south end water spaces obliterated.
Central docks. Little of those are left and they want to fill in west waterloo as well - bottom left hand dock
The docks are still there complete with quays under the earth. Clarence dock is still there look, the oulines is still there of the quays:
- Sandon Dock - filled in
- Wellington Docks - will be filled in
- Bidston Dock - filled in. This was a part of Wallasey Pool
- Bromborough Dock - the largest privately owned dock in the world which was Bromborough Pool; filled in
- Princes dock - filled to canal boat depths
- Princes Half-Tide dock - filled to canal boat depths
Look at a map. Many branch docks north of Wellington Dock have been filled in, from Canada, Huskisson, Hornby, Alexandra, Langton, etc. Even the dock at Otterspool was filled in.
Name me something for the better in docks filling? Do not write Kings. What a disaster.Times change. Sometimes for the better.
The point with Amsterdam is that they successfully converted commercial waterway to leisure/residential. Look at what Hamburg is doing - I did mention Hamburg and you read the web sites as well:You appear to make much of the comparison with Amsterdam but the two cities are worlds apart in almost every respect
Read the web site in my sig. It says a lot. Liverpool IS unique. The largest interconnected dock system in the world. Well it was until sharks got their hands on it.Whilst by no means unique Liverpool or its Docks could be another Venetian or Dutch paradise but you don’t seem to say anywhere why they should be or how they could be. Like it or not, money matters.
Read the web site on the sig. I am clearly not advocating recreating the past. A waterscaped city has to keep what it has in heritage, but the rest can be modern builds suitable for a waterscape, not anytown structures more suitable fro Surrey.I’m sure you will say that profit or economics are unimportant compared with the ‘heritage’ of the place but unless you can make the economic case persuasively to those that make those decisions (or you’re ready with your own money), you really are going to have to live with it, much as the Luddites eventually had to live with the Spinning Jenny (or the like)
Peel Waters is lackluste and unimaginative - it will be cheap and tatty like the first phase of Dockalnds in London. The first phase was the Shanghai Tower. Great a tall tower for us. But the wanted it in the middle of Princes half-tide dock. The footprint is so large it would leave a moat around the tower. Land by stealth. More water spaces filled in for Peel to make money from lucrative land. They are a land company. They are out to make money at all costs. It is up to us to make sure they do not destroy our heritage and legacy.And yes, if all of Peel Waters went ahead the best way to meet demand is a new rail tunnel under the Mersey. It would be a nice problem to have.
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