Scousers are born in Liverpool.

[dazza]

Now, ive wrestled with this one. I was born in Liverpool in 1959 and lived in Orrel Park until I was 4. Then we moved to Widnes. So, am I a scouser or am I a Woolyback?

'Am I a Woolyback'?

Let's see then... 'from Liverpool, lived in Orrel Park...and then moved to Widnes'. I'd say your trousers were cut from the finest Liverpool cloth, and then lined with Cheshire fleece? Non of your grumbling now, they'll come in handy this winter.

I'm just jesting, please forgive me? I was born in Walton too.

[lindylou]

True dat. Walton is far older than Liverpool. St Mary's Walton-on-the-Hill was the parish church of Liverpool until 1699 when St Nicks was made the parish church. That means that until 1699 Liverpool had to pay its dues to the rector of Walton!

That's what I was thinking.

I've always maintained that, just as a Cockney is born within the sound of the Bow Bells, a true Scouser is born within the sound of the bells of Walton church .. my grandad was born in Ismay st, and my dad Emery st - - that's near enough to Walton church in my book !


I've never heard this word wauser !

[dazza]

So a Scouser born within the bells of St Mary's church is a Waltonian surely eh Lindy.

[lindylou]

ha,ha, It's my own little theory that keeps me happy

[John Doh]

I trust that you North-Enders, in your bid to establish your credentials over the upstart Liverpool, recognise that there were various other ancient Bronze Age villages dotted around Merseyside that may even pre-date your cherished Walton. How about Wavyrtree? (Can't say I'm really sure, but I like flying kites... until they hit the deck...)

[ellergreen]

I wuz broken hearted when a girl I fancied said that she was a Liverpolitan whilst I was a Liverpudlian.
Gateacre v Scottie . "Your loss" said I, as we left the floor of the Locarno.
I really was a Graftonite!.

[dazza]

I really was a Graftonite!.

Wasn't Superman afraid of this?

[Samsette]

Its all an accident of birth, 'though some endeavour to make a profession of it. Take a leaf from The Book of Oudeis and have a nice day.

[redjed1]

So a Scouser born within the bells of St Mary's church is a Waltonian surely eh Lindy.

Dazza, he'd definitely be a scouser, but a deaf one.

[ellergreen]

Wasn't Superman afraid of this?

[gerry_2]

So does that mean if your born in Birkenhead your a Birk and if your born in Wallasey your a Wally.

[wsteve55]

What about if you come from Speke,Aigburth,Anfield,Tuebrook,etc,for example? Are/were there local nicknames,etc,that we no longer hear? The only one I've heard of is "Mudmen",who come from Garston!

[dazza]

What about if you come from Speke,Aigburth,Anfield,Tuebrook,etc,for example? Are/were there local nicknames,etc,that we no longer hear? The only one I've heard of is "Mudmen",who come from Garston!

They must of had names for each other? We could always make some up!

I think identity has more to do with where your heart resides, rather than just simply a matter of where you were born. A lot of black Americans feel 'African' despite being born in DC, Atlanta or New York etc... Imigrants describe themselves [even after several generations] in a double-barrelled form: African-American, Irish-American, [oddly enough you don't hear of too many 'English-Americans'...the old enemy] French-Canadian, etc...

So I'm not surprised many would see themselves as Liverpudlian, [Liverpolitan?] or Scouse, if there is a family connection here.

[underworld]

When I worked in Speke, they were called Spekeites. Mudmen were from under the bridge only in Garston.

[ChrisGeorge]

They must of had names for each other? We could always make some up!

I think identity has more to do with where your heart resides, rather than just simply a matter of where you were born. A lot of black Americans feel 'African' despite being born in DC, Atlanta or New York etc... Imigrants describe themselves [even after several generations] in a double-barrelled form: African-American, Irish-American, [oddly enough you don't hear of too many 'English-Americans'...the old enemy] French-Canadian, etc...

So I'm not surprised many would see themselves as Liverpudlian, [Liverpolitan?] or Scouse, if there is a family connection here.

Hi Daz

More correctly, the term "African American" is the current politically correct term used in the United States to designate people who until the Sixties were known as "blacks" or "negroes" or "coloreds" and then in the Sixties and Seventies "Afro-Americans." So it is not actually to do with immigrants but more used to designate black families that have mostly been here for generations, often since the time of slavery.

All the best

Chris