Who was the UKs worst PM and why.

[Max]

The current Labour ain't as bad as what people make out to be but they have gone too far right instead a little fair balance. Not too bad but we still need alot of social reform.

People need to not be brainwashed with false promises of living greedy like what the milk snatcher promised too. Also the imperialist atitude about Great Britain is a load of crap too. People are easily brainwashed then moan about who they voted in!

[Waterways]

Under Blair Since 1997:
The UK economy has been the world's most robust.
The pound has been almighty strong
9/11 caused a recession in most of the western world. It never happened here.
The UK had the longest sustained economic growth in history. Provincial cities have boomed with their skylines changing beyond belief.
Some superb anti-social laws have been implemented (a pity some police and courts do not use them enough).
The country even absorbed over 1 million eastern European and still not have an unemployment problem.
Hereditary peers abolished - the biggest constitutional change since Oliver Cromwell
Provincial cities went on massive building programmes - look at the skyscrapers in Liverpool, Manchester, Birmingham.
Fact presented by Mr WW

Fantastic. I am glad Kong is getting somewhere. What don't you understand about all that?

Manufacturing industry has been going to the Far East for nearly 50 years - Globalisation.

The pound is at its weakest because we are the worst financial crisis in history. The Credit Crunch. Have you heard of it?

Provincial cities build `sky scrapers`. Hotels that are empty because no one can afford to stay in them.

Do you think the cities should build slums instead? I know many here want slum tenements to be re-introduced. They hotels are not full because we are the worst financial crisis in history. The Credit Crunch. Have you heard of it?

Hereditary Peers are gone and democratic Lords is on the way. It will help you as we will have democratic representative parliament, not bunch of land owners rigging laws to suit themselves. You are the sort who would have dictatorship with mass poverty around you, as long as you have a few bob in the bank.

After I thought you were getting somewhere you let me down. Kong, do not vote for a bunch of public schoolboy idiots all from one school, to the run the country.

[Waterways]

He gets nasty and starts name calling

Only if you start it. I just tell it as it is.

Labour have pursued a policy of boom and bust since 1997.

Another one in cloud cuckoo land. Even 19/11 never affected the economy. The most robust and stable in the world.

I could see the recession coming a mile off.

You could? You knew in-depth what was happening in the US economy that affected the whole world? Holly sock Batman!

[Waterways]

Attlee should never be considered in such a discussion. Britain had some great progress thanks to him.

Out of who i have read about Thatcher. She reversed social progress simply thats why. The voters were mad to give her 3 terms.

Churchill himself was overrated because the war too. Guys like Major just carried on what their predecessor started.

I don't agree with all of Waterways stuff on the current Labor

I only gave the fact of what they did since 1997. Remember the deprivation of Tories? Short memory?

for example, why did they introduce university fees?

Because graduates end up being the highest paid people in the country who can afford to pay back. They have long time to pay back as well.

[RonnieW]

How does that relate to foreign policy? Only upper class people know about foreign policy?

He was a child of his class, which is why he took an imperialist view of the world. He signed agreements with Franco as soon as the war was over.

[RonnieW]

It's like I have died and gone to heaven. Not seeing Waterways postings is like seeing all the pretty angels on the clouds.

Ahhhhh! Lovely.

He's entitled to his view, even if it is a simple minded faith in a political party which is nothing more than a cul-de-sac down which the anger of the working class can be safely flushed and forgotten about. Your civil rights have been steadily eroded by his party since 1997. He imagines he is against the Tories because he supports Labour, yet the anti-trade union laws brought in by Thatcher remain on the statute books. He imagines he opposes racism and anti-semitism when he supports a party which supports a system which encourages them.

[A.D.W]

Indeed, he is entitled to his opinion. It's just a shame his debating skills are none existent, RonnieW.

[RonnieW]

Indeed, he is entitled to his opinion. It's just a shame his debating skills are none existent, RonnieW.

As Gnasher has said, he's like the bloke in the pub who thinks he's won the argument because he shouts the loudest. I suppose it's to be expected when one idolises authoritarian leaders like Blair.
Even the old reactionary Churchill opposed the use of ID cards and had them withdrawn on re-taking power in 1952. It never entered Atlee's head to withdraw them at all.
It's a great laugh reading his posts though!

[jobee]

Suez was a political failure. A humiliation. A climb down.

You must be joking, the canal was opened, the straits of tiran were opened,
compensation was paid to our shareholders. compensation was paid to the ex pats that had to leave Egypt. We were NOT occupying Egypt. Since Egypt received its independence we were only stationed along the banks of the canal to protect it from Israeli attack and closure. It received a bad press because Eden had always been sarcastic to the British press.

But victory it was, probably the sweetest and quickest victory the British army ever achieved. Read on.

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[Waterways]

As Gnasher has said, he's like the bloke in the pub who thinks he's won the argument because he shouts the loudest.

I do not shout. I just give facts. The hard of thinking and the conditioned can't handle that - you are clearly one or the other or both.

I suppose it's to be expected when one idolises authoritarian leaders like Blair.

Is this the same Blair that kicked out the unelected self-interest hereditary peers from the House and Lords to introduce a democratic chamber?

All you do, like many others here, is make yourself look foolish.

[Waterways]

You must be joking, the canal was opened, the straits of tiran were opened,

No I am not joking. The US said get out the British did what they said. It was a watershed moment, when the British empire was clearly over.

[Waterways]

He's entitled to his view,

I give facts. Any view is heavily factual based. I go on results.

You are agreeing with a person who openly hates people people because of their race/region. hat is how clever you are.

Find out how the UK is run. Read Paxman's Who Runs Britain for starters. Come back for more when you have read it.

You are a sycophant. The Alf Garnets of this world.

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[Waterways]

Indeed, he is entitled to his opinion. It's just a shame his debating skills are none existent, RonnieW.

His idea of debating skills are agreeing with racist hating bigotry. A BNP voter. Yes.

[Max]

I only gave the fact of what they did since 1997. Remember the deprivation of Tories? Short memory?



Because graduates end up being the highest paid people in the country who can afford to pay back. They have long time to pay back as well.

I've read what the Tories deprived people of but i was only 11 when Blair got in so i don't remember much Tory stuff when they were in.

Depends on the Uni sometimes and what degree they get though. Alot of graduates are in jobs like McDonalds for example at the moment. Some subjects people get degrees in don't always pay too high either.

Places like Sweden and even Ireland have free Uni education. Education is a right and one of the most important needs to survive, it should be made free or at least really cheap to pay. It was something you'd expect from the schoolboys.

The student loans places mess up too and make the lower income pay for the mistakes, they give loans out to students with parents on a really high income like 60k a year!

[A.D.W]

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