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    Quote Originally Posted by pablo42 View Post
    Ha, life's too short Kevin. I stopped paying back when I was a boy. I'm a great believer in what goes around comes around. People get paid back from the most unlikliest places. If you do someone harm, someone else will do you harm. That's my creed. It generally works for me, cept for the lottery.
    So you believe in karma.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Waterways View Post
    I do have the knack.
    Many would agree WW. Love it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by pablo42 View Post
    I never knew anyhting of that WW. Thanks.
    A page on it:

    Brunswick Quay Tower

    No Vision in Liverpool

    Chris Ives, the director of the developers Maro, said: "If we had gone to Manchester, Newcastle or Leeds with this building we would probably already be on site." He expands, "Liverpool city council doesn't have any vision - they can't see around corners".
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    Quote Originally Posted by Waterways View Post
    I do have the knack.
    For all your faults, you do make me laugh at times (with humour, not scorn)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Waterways View Post
    So you believe in karma.
    Yes, spose it's a Bhuddist thing. Spent some time in Thailand.


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    Quote Originally Posted by pablo42 View Post
    These two guys get so personal, it's only a matter of opinion. I thought they were two cantankerous old guys, but I don't think they are. Funny.
    Old? Me? Nah!!!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Waterways View Post
    A page on it:

    Brunswick Quay Tower

    No Vision in Liverpool

    Chris Ives, the director of the developers Maro, said: "If we had gone to Manchester, Newcastle or Leeds with this building we would probably already be on site." He expands, "Liverpool city council doesn't have any vision - they can't see around corners".
    Thanks for that WW. What a bazarre decision not to allow this.

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    Quote Originally Posted by kevin View Post
    For all your faults, you do make me laugh at times (with humour, not scorn)
    I do have the knack.
    The new Amsterdam at Liverpool?
    Save Liverpool Docks and Waterways - Click

    Deprived of its unique dockland waters Liverpool
    becomes a Venice without canals, just another city, no
    longer of special interest to anyone, least of all the
    tourist. Would we visit a modernised Venice of filled in
    canals to view its modern museum describing
    how it once was?


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    Quote Originally Posted by Waterways View Post
    Old? Me? Nah!!!
    I don't think either of you are, yet you both come across that way. Reckon you both need cheering up.

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    Quote Originally Posted by pablo42 View Post
    I don't think either of you are, yet you both come across that way. Reckon you both need cheering up.
    Force feed them an audio diet of Jeremy Kyle for 24 hours?

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    Quote Originally Posted by kevin View Post
    Force feed them an audio diet of Jeremy Kyle for 24 hours?
    Hey! Love Jeremy Kyle, I'm waiting for me double helping now. Only telly I watch.

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    Telly?
    This time of day he's on the radio.

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    Quote Originally Posted by kevin View Post
    Telly?
    This time of day he's on the radio.
    ITV2 just started. A double episode, love it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Waterways View Post
    It is clear you comment on matters and don't know the basics of, not only that form firm opinions on - when you have been pointed to where the information is with easy explanations a number of times. You get like a stuck record refusing to believe what you have conditioned yourself to believe over the years.
    Is this the pot calling the kettle or what?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Waterways View Post
    That is absolute nonsense!!! ... The site was ideal, ... The building would not be fat as the site is not that big...The building was to look like a sail ...which reflected the maritime heritage.

    ...Simpson. He got to the semi-finals of the World Trade Centre replacement. He is a world-renowned architect. And he was educated in Liverpool, so local connections....

    you do not reject...especially a poor city like Liverpool.

    Can you get any 'facts' right...?

    If you think the city is allowing tall buildings in the south you should read their DRAFT SPD or this from a report on their FINAL guidelines:

    Originally it suggested allowing high-rise buildings in two clusters: the commercial district around Old Hall Street and the ?southern gateway? around Parliament Street.

    Following consultation the city says high-rise buildings will also be allowed in Central Docks, and mid-rise buildings of between seven and 15 storeys will be allowed in the quayside area north of Salisbury Dock,


    If you think a building can't be fat because the site 'is not that big', you're talking out of your...but just in case you are in any doubt as to how fat it is see this : http://www.flickr.com/photos/40936407@N07/4097660247/

    Since when did the government have a 'chief architect' and why would you need to take his opinion if it did (rather than think for yourself)?

    If you think the site is ideal, have you looked at how other world-renowned skylines have a degree of modelling and progression, emphasis and focus (not desperately trying-too-hard lumps stuck in the middle of nowhere)?

    and if you think coming nowhere behind a very ordinary design in build-anything-as-long-as-it-makes-money New York is an achievement rather than a misplaced attempt to raise your design profile then good luck to you (and no, Libeskind is not getting built)

    If you'd read his comments on the city, you wouldn't give Simpson house room let alone have him as son of the city, as empoverished as we aaaaaaaaaah.

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