George Kelly Cameo Cinema Murder

**CanadianLad** · 01-22-2009

Brian, thank, I rememeber that chapter in the book and your life quite clearly. disgusting they never apologized to your family. I'd love to see some of those idiotic newspaper clippings. "Kelly Gang" how stupid is that. I thought guns weren't even that popular or even used in those days.. it's funny you mentioned the guy who claimed to do the murder was far off to sea/another country and one of the witnesses of the day claimed there was a trio at the docks looking for a way out of liverpool during the Cameo investigation....
The book never mentioned it was actually Balmer grabbing by the throat, was it actually him? And I'm dying to ask, was he really having a thing with Doris, George Kelly's girl?

**captain kong** · 01-24-2009

Hi Canadian Lad.
Yes it was Balmer who came to my house and got me by the throat in is left hand and slapped me around the face with his right, he wore brown leather gloves.
I cannot say if he was having a `thing` with Doris, George Skelly did a lot of research with a lot of the characters that were around and I would say that what George wrote was the true story, the only true story written.

Here is a photo of George Kelly`s Funeral, at the Roman Catholic Cathedral.
George Skelly and I attended but they would not let us in. they had security guards on the doors and the Daughter refused us entry. Ironic seeing that we did the campaining for him to be cleared and for him to be exhumed for a Christian Burial. We stood outside in freezing cold wind and rain for an hour or so. I then took the photos when they came out.

**burkhilly** · 01-24-2009

I remember the day of GK's funeral and how cold and wet it was. I didn't go to the cathedral, but knew George Skelly was attending in the hope of being allowed entrance. I also know that he and others outside were barred from entering. It's a real shame that the people responsible for finally clearing GK's name were not allowed to attend.

I can only assume it was for mercenary reasons, if you know what I mean!

**captain kong** · 01-24-2009

Yes , I do know what you mean. Sad.

**CanadianLad** · 02-05-2009

ahh, you mean reporters and stuff who had no business being there... I think. And again,, I read the book, this case really caught me... thanks again for posting... seemed to me like this Balmer guy was more desperate that evil.. either way what was done in the end was evil..

**captain kong** · 02-05-2009

Hi,
George and I didnt see any reporters or any one else just the two of us stood outside in the wind and rain.

**burkhilly** · 02-05-2009

Can confirm there were no reporters there. Believe we were talking about "others" who could alledgy benefit from the unsafe verdict.

**CanadianLad** · 03-24-2009

Hey guys, who is the fella that supposedly found the missing statement (that someone else did the murders) that Balmer kept hidden. Is it true the decided to pursue it over a dare/ dart game? Sorry, just hearing so many great stories. Heard he met Connolly when Connolly was a bouncer or something...

**CanadianLad** · 03-24-2009

also... I've heard so much about Balmer. So really what was his deal?.. was he just a total ******* or one of those pig headed morons who didn't care who he nailed as long as he nailed some one? or was a he a guy who just did what ever the bosses told him?

**Alice Hutton** · 03-24-2009

My name is Alice Hutton. I am a freelance journalist writing on the cameo murders and I am looking to get in touch with Emma Gill- I see it has been two years since she posted here but I would be grateful if anyone could put me in touch with her. I am also looking for as much information as possible- I have read Shortall's and Skelly's books but does anyone here have an email for them?

Alice
www.alicetalks.wordpress.com
Alice.Hutton.1@city.ac.uk

**burkhilly** · 03-24-2009

Originally Posted by CanadianLad

Hey guys, who is the fella that supposedly found the missing statement (that someone else did the murders) that Balmer kept hidden. Is it true the decided to pursue it over a dare/ dart game? Sorry, just hearing so many great stories. Heard he met Connolly when Connolly was a bouncer or something...

Lou Santagelleni (surname incorrectly spelt sorry) met Charles Connolly, who told Lou the story. Lou S is a solicitor who got to know CC very well and believed that he was not involved in the crime. It was Lou who had access to some police files and came across the missing statement.

This is according to George Skelly's fantastic book, the Cameo Conspiracy - which I believe. Lou and George were both at the Cathedral when George Kelly was laid to rest. However, neither were invited to the service, which was invitation only. A real shame that the two who were most involved in gaining the "unsafe conviction" were not invited to the funeral.

**burkhilly** · 03-24-2009

Originally Posted by CanadianLad

also... I've heard so much about Balmer. So really what was his deal?.. was he just a total ******* or one of those pig headed morons who didn't care who he nailed as long as he nailed some one? or was a he a guy who just did what ever the bosses told him?

He was a policeman of his day. From what I've read he used any means to get a conviction. He allegedy was on the take. He was a nasty piece of work by all accounts. This is all heresy and based on what I've read........and to be fair the man's not here to defend himself or his apparently dubious methods.

**burkhilly** · 03-26-2009

Just seen this on the BBC Website:

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/m...de/7966136.stm

**Famous Scouser** · 03-27-2009

Commendable and does need to be looked at, but its a pity that money seems to be the drive behind it.

http://www.liverpoolecho.co.uk/liver...0252-23246679/

And it wasnt the family that cleared George Kellys name, it was George Skelly and Lou Santangeli.

**Famous Scouser** · 03-27-2009

Originally Posted by burkhilly

Lou Santagelleni (surname incorrectly spelt sorry) met Charles Connolly, who told Lou the story. Lou S is a solicitor who got to know CC very well and believed that he was not involved in the crime. It was Lou who had access to some police files and came across the missing statement.

This is according to George Skelly's fantastic book, the Cameo Conspiracy - which I believe. Lou and George were both at the Cathedral when George Kelly was laid to rest. However, neither were invited to the service, which was invitation only. A real shame that the two who were most involved in gaining the "unsafe conviction" were not invited to the funeral.

Lou is not a solicitor at all, he was a very successful businessman. Charles Connolly was a doorman greeter at the Derby lodge in Roby and met Lou who was a customer there. It so happened that they got talking about a case in the courts whereby somebody had been accused of a crime they didnt commit and Charles told Lou that he once was accused of a crime he didnt do. Then the story came out and Lou knew who he was etc.

Lou is a fascinating man and when he recites this story, its absolutely fascinating. If anyone is not convinced of Kelly and Connollys innocence, speak to Lou Santangeli !