Originally Posted by
jc_everton
Well you've certainly done a good job of bringing your standards into question, thats for sure. To not expect a seat on an English train is ludicrous. It may be realistic, but to call it a "bonus" is a sad reflection of Modern England.
As I said, This Is England. Once a proud nation, now we have situations where people cannot board a train because it's too full. As a result, members of the public like your good self believe getting a seat is a "bonus". Believe it or not, I sometimes have to get this Manc-L'pool train home at peak time, and I've seen it for myself, just how rammed it gets, and in the summer it really is unpleasant. I'm not disputing the crowdedness of these trains, nor should you dispute the same problem with peak time, 3-car trains on the Northern Line. A similar joke.
My point is quite clear, by accepting the situation as "the norm", people become accustomed to it, and standing up is just "accepted". But it shouldn't be. You pay good money, you expect good service. That goes with pretty much everything in life. Surely you can see this is a valid point? And how this mentality spreads into other aspects of modern life, like a cancer.
You are really having a good rant aren't you?
I have not brought my standards into it whatsoever, I have stated some facts which you don't like. You would have more credibility if you didn't take things out of context and then exagerate them to try and make a 'point'. Especially when you try to make it personal.
I certainly will dispute your point. There is a vast, vast difference between being on a crowded train and not being able to get on one at all. Incidently, I have not mentioned Manchester to Liverpool peak services at all, so feel free to compare them to whatever you like.
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No doubt you will reply with another tirade of thinly disguised personal insults, so I won't rise to them, this will be my last word on the subject until any more interesting or valid points are raised. Go on - have the last word.
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