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    Default Fredrick Deeming in New Zealand

    Apparently Fredrick Deeming also came to New Zealand before going to Melbourne. I was brought up in Rainhill, but have lived in N.Z for the past 36 years. It came as a suprise to me when reading in our local Masterton paper a story about Fredrick Deeming with a reference to the Rainhill murders, and how he had spent a short time in Masterton which is situated about 120 km north of Wellington.

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    I'm ashamed to say tht I have never heard of this man and i know Rainhill quite well. Lawton road was an affluent area (still is). What was his background Chris?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Chris48 View Post
    I'm ashamed to say tht I have never heard of this man and i know Rainhill quite well. Lawton road was an affluent area (still is). What was his background Chris?
    Born in Birkenhead, Chris, 30 July 1853. There's an article about him at

    http://www.casebook.org/dissertations/dst-deeming.html

    and see this article of mine as well which covers Deeming and his Rainhill crimes:

    http://www.casebook.org/dissertation...brighouse.html

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    The exact location was on the west side of Lawton Road, about where the 6th and 7th modern day dwellings are (counting from the Warrington Road end). It's marked by name on the 1894 1:10560 OS map.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ghughesarch View Post
    The exact location was on the west side of Lawton Road, about where the 6th and 7th modern day dwellings are (counting from the Warrington Road end). It's marked by name on the 1894 1:10560 OS map.
    Absolutely brilliant thank you!

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    Very interesting. Great to know that about the location of Dinham Villa, GH. By the way, we have an article upcoming in Ripperologist on Deeming and his Melbourne jail cell by Australian Adam Went.

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    you'll find the maps by searching for "Rainhill" on this useful site:

    http://www.old-maps.co.uk/indexmappage2.aspx

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    Emily Mather, Deeming's wife who was found murdered in Australia, was the daughter of a local newsagent in Rainhill - her mother's shop is still standing at the corner of View Road and Warrington Road, I think it was still a newsagents in recent years but I remember it being derelict for a long time:

    http://www.prov.vic.gov.au/deeming/d...G184page75.htm

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    Hi - I just found your forum searching for Dinham villa - I have something that might be of interest - my great uncle kept a railway crossing in lincolnshire and to practice his handwriting copied stuff out of the newspapers into a journal - included is this sketch of the house and where the bodies were found and a few other details...Click image for larger version. 

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    Quote Originally Posted by richardcrooks View Post
    Hi - I just found your forum searching for Dinham villa - I have something that might be of interest - my great uncle kept a railway crossing in lincolnshire and to practice his handwriting copied stuff out of the newspapers into a journal - included is this sketch of the house and where the bodies were found and a few other details...Click image for larger version. 

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    Hi all

    On JTR Forums it appears that Howard Brown might have just posted the very newspaper article from which Richard Crooks' ancestor may have copied those images of the front elevation and plan of Dinham Villa. The article appeared in a supplement to the Manchester Courier, March 19, 1892.

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    News report found by Howard Brown of JtR Forums about the hanging of Deeming in Australia

    Kansas City Star
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