Originally Posted by
Ged
Yeah but that's people for you, not so much the flats - you can't blame bricks and mortar for that.
You can. They created an impersonal inhuman environment.
There's still kids nowadays in this well to do era who will ask to mind your car on matchdays, will ask trick or treat - give the wrong answer to either and kapput. They'll rob from your van at traffic lights now - that didn't happen back then
Because they never thought of it.
I knew lads who lived in 'posh' houses on Queens Drive and Page Moss who'd rob you as much as look at you back then so it wasn't just the gardens.
Moreso in the gardens. Once one deteriortated, they created that attitude.
There was pride in those places in the 60s and 70s. The stairwell and landings would be whitewashed along the edge for forthcoming weddings or priest visits or May Queen processions. There'd be bunting hanging out for special occassions and always a good spread on first Holy Communion day.
Once the 70s came that all went down - when the first generation of resident went. Few hung washing off the balconies it was that bad in some.
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With flats, if a few bad families were there they could drag the whole block, or gardens, down quickly. The decent people move and quickly too, and the whole place spirals downwards quite quickly until you end up with knobheads. The council then use them to hosue the problem families as they are all in one place only annoying each other. A sink estate.
You are focusing on one time of these gardens, the 1940s and 50s - the good times.
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