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A good point about the danger of defacement, Waterways. As I see it one option would be to have a ground level Liver Bird that would be a replica of those on the Liver Buildings. Another option might be to have an international competition for an artist to come up with a new interpretation of the Liver Bird. It should not be an abstract sculpture but something that would realistically re-envision the Liver Bird for the twenty-first century.
Chris
Christopher T. George
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The new Amsterdam at Liverpool?
Save Liverpool Docks and Waterways - Click
Deprived of its unique dockland waters Liverpool
becomes a Venice without canals, just another city, no
longer of special interest to anyone, least of all the
tourist. Would we visit a modernised Venice of filled in
canals to view its modern museum describing
how it once was?
Giving Liverpool a full Metro - CLICK
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I remember someone defacing it with some offensive remarks about scousers a few years ago.
As for a ground level Liverbird, we have plenty of monuments that are in good conditions dotted about our city. I would put it just above head hight like most of the others so you have to look up, 6-10 ft or so.
It must be accessible by all members of our community, not just goths
Christopher T. George
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Yes Chris, it is a world wide problem. I have seen graffiti on some of the worlds most famouse heritage sites, places like Giza, Chichen-itza, Corcovado, The Colosseum, The Acropolis and even in the Punch Bowl cemetary. Don't know what posseses people to deface their environment, but they do.
Hi Sloyne
Of course it's not a modern phenomenon even though it seems especially rife now. I remember seeing medieval effigies defaced by initials by people long ago after Thomas and Oliver Cromwell and his gangs had their go. And at Shakespeare's cottage a number of well known people had inscribed their names in the panes of the leadlight windows, presumably using their diamond rings.
Chris
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Would that be Anne Hathaways cottage? I have visited the cottage but never noticed the graffiti you mention. I will certainly look if I ever go back to Stratford-on-Avon. Were did you see the graffiti by Oliver Cromwell and was it Thomas Cromwell, Earl of Essex or Thomas Cranmer the Archbishop of Canterbury, you meant? Thanks for this very interesting piece information.
Last edited by Sloyne; 12-05-2006 at 07:40 PM.
Hi Sloyne
It was definitely Shakespeare's birthplace because I remember looking out onto the street through the defaced window. . . as you probably know Anne Hathaway's Cottage is set somewhat off the road. And it was Thomas Cromwell, who oversaw the Dissolution of the Monasteries under Henry VIII.
Chris
Christopher T. George
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Thanks to all who have responded and commented on the Third Lyver Bird idea.
It is currently with the Public Art Steering Committee, who are said to be considering locations which
could do with some public work of art, and then allo the Bird to bid for one of these, against other
ideas which have money or sponsorship attached. So don't hold your breath.
I have made a CD-rom of the scheme, containing photos, mock-ups, transcripts, histories, notes
and diagrams, and managed to place copies with David Henshaw, Warren Bradley and a third of the
councillors, Jason Harborow, Prof Drummond Bone, Laurie Peake and many others. All those who
are likely to be in a position to do anything are well aware of the plan, and generally in favour - in
principle.
(If you would like a copy of this CDrom, do email me privately with a postal address.)
Please feel free to "talk it up", write to your councillor and MP, but best of all -find a serious sponsor.
In "original materials" we are talking near £250,000, but in kevlar or such about £40,000. Such an
item would not last 100 years, but if it gets built and lasts ten years or more, then there would be an
outcry of "we must keep The Bird", equivalent to the Keep Gormley's Men campaign.
Security? Well, I think it would have to take its chance along with other works of art, most of which
come through unscathed, and this one is surely going to prove more popular, and more readily taken
to Scouse hearts. One change I now think could be made, with security in mind, is to incorporate
part of the Dome on which the bird stands. This would be rather harder to scale, and would make the
whole item a few feet taller still, and even more impressive.
Keep coming with the ideas, everyone.
Gerry.
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