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Liverpool, and also The Liver Birds. Out of the three major things I’ve done, two of them have been Liverpool."
Carla
LaneMainly because the BBC is not doing the kind of comedy that I write anymore. We have reality
now and there’s no room for my kind of comedy. I need to write and to work, and so someone put to me that I ought to write a book. A publisher phoned me
finally and I thought ‘right, do it!’ I’m glad I did, I enjoyed doing it and I hope people like reading it.
Why do you think the
BBC aren’t doing what you do anymore?
I don’t think they’re in touch with their audience,
frankly. I get lovely letters about the comedy programmes that were on in those days. Dad’s Army, the lovely characters in that. It was moving as well as
funny. I think people just sit back and take what they’re given, don’t they?
It can’t be a lack of writers though,
surely?
No, I would think there’s plenty of them around, but the point is, people just
think ‘oh well, we don’t get that anymore.’ They don’t seem to make a fuss about it. It’s reality that’s taken over and frankly, I can’t bear
that.
Let’s take you back to your early days, you were a convent girl weren’t you?
Yes. I wasn’t a good scholar and I left school quite early. I had taken to writing poetry and I was beginning to feel that
words were the things that were going to take me further ahead. I started Liver Birds with a friend who couldn’t carry on. I was left jittering in a little
bedsit in Paddington thinking ‘what am I going to do?’
In the book you talk about being a young mum. You would put the kids to
bed and you would get your pen out and start writing. That must have been quite hard.

The Liver Birds
Yes. I would do other things too. I used to go nursing three times a week as well. In those days kids went to bed a
6 o’clock, so I used to write then. The Liver Birds happened sort of strangely, really. There was over 100 done in the end. It just became
easy.
What was is like to see your name as writer for the first time on BBC 1?
It was exhilarating, but it’s quite frightening too as it carries with it the burden of having to keep it up. I never really boasted about
my name on the screen or jumped up and down for joy. I just had this inner satisfaction that what I was doing was right and that I could do it. As a child at
school I was hopeless. The best they could say about me was that I had a sense of humour.
What do you think of the new Liverpool
that is forging ahead?
I was there not long ago being interviewed at the top of the Liver
Buildings and looking down. What a beautiful city it’s become. It was shining, it looked like a jewel.
When you talk about the
break up of your marriage in your book, people will think of Rhea in Butterflies. Was it similar to that?
Yes, I went to the BBC and I said I want to write about a woman who is married and in love with someone else. I want to write about the
problem. 'Can’t do that darling, not as comedy' they said. 'Write it as a drama'. I said 'I don’t want to.' So I went back to my home and wrote the
first script. I sent it to them and 24 hours later a motorbike drew up outside to deliver a note that said ‘who am I to argue with a butterfly? 6 more please
immediately.’ So that was nice. I enjoyed so much doing it.
What was it like being a woman in that business?
It was strange, there was no other woman writing comedy. It was odd, I did feel on my own. The old days
of the BBC were lovely though. The corridors were alive. The head of comedy was always available.
You make it sound like Grace
Bros.
(laughs). Yes, I met so many tremendously clever, famous people. I remember seeing
Sir John Gielgud and saying ‘what do you do?’ He said ‘I act a little’. I’ve often thought back and thought ‘oh, what cheek’.
Bread was an incredible success but it stuttered at the beginning didn’t it because of critics?
Yes, terribly. Liverpool was angry with me.
Liverpool was angry was because of the stereotype. It was the
mid-80’s and there were problems in the city. Talk us through what happened..
The thing
they hated most was that they were going to the dole office to claim money. They said I made it look like everyone in Liverpool was doing that. Of course,
that was not my intent, of course it wasn’t. I wanted to write a really funny story about a wonderful family and show the togetherness of how they stuck
together like mad. It went very wrong in the beginning and I had to work very hard to win Liverpool’s heart over that.
I found it the easiest thing in the world to write. I couldn’t sleep because the dialogue was going on in
my head. We went to Rome and did a Christmas show there. They were happy days. We were so lucky with the cast. There was a lot of drama in
it.
I saw a young man walking down the street. He was tall and blonde and
wearing leather. He had dignity and I thought ‘I’m going to write about you. Your name’s Joey now what else..’ Bit by bit I gave him a family. That was the
birth of Bread.
I often think, that young man will never know he was the cause
of it.
Carla it’s been a pleasure to talk to you. Put pen to paper again because we’d love to see some of your screenplays on
television again.
I will. Thank
you.
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