New Canal Link

[George]

I don't like them being there. They don't look right no matter how colourful and pretty they are.

Its the way to go.

If I had the money I'd also be living on one...No Council tax,Mortgage,Road Tax, or any other taxes we get hammered with.

Ya can go anywhere on UK mainland that has the canal infastructure link and live within a comfortable lifestyle.

Call it ya modern day Gypsy.

[gregs dad]

I would rather see narrow boats in the Salthouse than nothing at all, As regards living on them very few owners do, using them like motorists use caravans to travel the country. I also think narrow boats and barges are very much a part of of our heritage, I can still remember the coal barges supplying our power stations in Liverpool

[Waterways]

Its the way to go.

If I had the money I'd also be living on one...No Council tax,Mortgage,Road Tax, or any other taxes we get hammered with.

Ya can go anywhere on UK mainland that has the canal infastructure link and live within a comfortable lifestyle.

Call it ya modern day Gypsy.

Speak to someone who permanently lives on one. They cost a fortune to heat in winter and many people suffer from rheumatic problems with the cold and damp. They cost to maintain and berth. There are few berths for them. They are cramped and only fit for a holiday.

[Waterways]

I would rather see narrow boats in the Salthouse than nothing at all,

That is a poor excuse. There is an alternative. There has been requests for deep water vessels to moor there: The Maxman, HMS Wimbrel, Many of the historic ship collection that had to shamefully be dispersed around the country, never to come back again. Those ships should be there, along with the odd sailing ship, not inland barges that really just do not fit in and look ridiculously out of place.

As I keep reminding people it is a World Heritage Site and site must be reinstated to as original as much as possible. Making a canal barge basin out of these historic docks is putting two fingers up to our maritime heritage.

As regards living on them very few owners do, using them like motorists use caravans to travel the country. I also think narrow boats and barges are very much a part of of our heritage, I can still remember the coal barges supplying our power stations in Liverpool

I am not saying they are not. The barges in Liverpool were wide barges mainly towed by tugs. They would string many together and travel from dock to dock or from Liverpool to Birkenhead. The odd canal barge, like thsoe in the picture would be about, however few and far between.

Having the whole of these docks as an inland canal barge basin is NOT a part of our heritage at all. British Waterways own the south docks and barges is all they understand. The stupid city council went along with it ignoring heritage and history, thinking they can own the pound or two.

The current council are a disgrace and the sooner they go the better.

[Waterways]

I don't like them being there. They don't look right no matter how colourful and pretty they are.

They are way down from the top of the quays and look totally out of place.

[gregs dad]

Come now, I think somebody has already pointed out they are not barges in the photos but narrow boats.
Regarding putting old ships and boats in the docks it didn`t work with the warships in Birkenhead.

[George]

Speak to someone who permanently lives on one. They cost a fortune to heat in winter and many people suffer from rheumatic problems with the cold and damp. They cost to maintain and berth. There are few berths for them. They are cramped and only fit for a holiday.

They're the ones without a brain ie invest in a log burning stove...it cost nothing to pick up wood on yer travels up and down the canal...wood that you can find anywhere and everywhere

Cramped my harse...if ya is 6ft then its not the thing for you.

[Waterways]

They're the ones without a brain ie invest in a log burning stove...it cost nothing to pick up wood on yer travels up and down the canal...wood that you can find anywhere and everywhere

Cramped my harse...if ya is 6ft then its not the thing for you.

I am just under 5' 11", so not for the averaged sized man.

[Waterways]

Come now, I think somebody has already pointed out they are not barges in the photos but narrow boats.
Regarding putting old ships and boats in the docks it didn`t work with the warships in Birkenhead.

They are barges. The term narrowboat is to make them more acceptable. They carried coal and cargo.

It did work in the East Float. They had to move as the area was being redeveloped. It was actually Wallasey the ships were in. Birkenhead/Wallasey is not Liverpool city centre which is a World Heritage Site and receives 1000s of tourists. The place the ships were at was not attractive at all.

Back to the prime point. The inland canal barges are out of place in deep water World Heritage Site city centre docks, precluding deep water ships. Look at what the WHS was awarded for. This is not in-keeping with the contract with the UN (UNESCO).

As I have stated, I think excavating Harrington and Toxteth Docks is ideal for these barges, leaving the prime city centre docks for historic and visiting deep water vessels.

I am not against them, they not suitable in the city centre WHS docks.

[gregs dad]

The term narrow boat has been around since the 18th century when they were made to navigate the locks and their beam could not exceed 7 foot anything over was a barge. Barges were used on rivers and docks and some canals nearly always being towed by horses or tugs.Narrow boats were used as public transport in some places such as the "Wigan Flyer" which plied the canals. In the early days they also carried mail.The modern ones we see now started about 1970`s with their steel hulls and fibreglass fittings

[wsteve55]

They're the ones without a brain ie invest in a log burning stove...it cost nothing to pick up wood on yer travels up and down the canal...wood that you can find anywhere and everywhere

Cramped my harse...if ya is 6ft then its not the thing for you.

Ha,Ha,

[Waterways]

They're the ones without a brain ie invest in a log burning stove...it cost nothing to pick up wood on yer travels up and down the canal...wood that you can find anywhere and everywhere

Cramped my harse...if ya is 6ft then its not the thing for you.

Burn wood inside a canal barge? That is looking for trouble and death.

[George]

Burn wood inside a canal barge? That is looking for trouble and death.

Taken from a Narrowboat enthusiast site...

Heating bills - well some coal perhaps. We use about two 25kg bags of coal per week (approx ?10) in winter. This cost can be reduced by burning wood (fallen trees / branches found on the cut), the cost being only a bit of sweat - personally I'm too lazy to bother.


Now if their burning coal on NB's do you reckon they make a fire in the floor of the boat.
Having a log burning stove on a NB is no different than having one in a brick house.

[George]

http://www.stovesonline.co.uk/boat-barge-stove.html

http://www.naturalheating.co.uk/narr...uxe-p-596.html

[Howie]