Unseen Liverpool

[ChrisGeorge]

Unowned land? Is there such a thing?

I should not think so. Any land in the United Kingdom surely is either classed as Crown or other government owned or is in private hands.

All the best

Chris

[Waterways]

Unowned land? Is there such a thing?

Ged, it said "imagine". To get the point and understanding across.

[Waterways]

I should not think so. Any land in the United Kingdom surely is either classed as Crown or other government owned or is in private hands.

All the best

Chris

All land is state owned. You have "title" to use the land. The planning and land laws are so poor they act against the average person. The likes of Peel are wanting to create land by filling in docks and waterways. Places were land never was.

[ChrisGeorge]

All land is state owned. You have "title" to use the land. The planning and land laws are so poor they act against the average person. The likes of Peel are wanting to create land by filling in docks and waterways. Places were land never was.

Okay, fine. Thanks for that explanation, Waterways.

Chris

[Waterways]

When Henry George, the creator of LVT, died in 1897 in the USA, 100,000 people turned up for his funeral. A man the rich and powerful have tried to air-brush from history. His views are getting stronger and stronger around the world.

Most people have heard of economist Keynes, few have heard of Henry George. Economists have though.

In the 1800s Henry George witnessed mass poverty and slums in New York. Like many, he was puzzled by the wealth creation, great technical advances and mass production and how many people being a part of this wealth creation lived lives of abject misery. The system clearly broken to allow this to occur. The proceeds of production were clearly not fairly distributed. Karl Marx and Engels studied this too around the same time and came out with their views of how to fairly distribute the fruits of production.

Henry George looked at it in rather simplistic and brilliant way. He saw that land ownership was a big problem by people not using the land for anything productive but taking rent. This he saw was the root cause of the problem with many cascading negative effects in society. George came up with Land Value Tax as a method of distributing the production of society more fairly and seamlessly easy. A system that did not change the behaviour of people, business or ownership. No state ownership, no nationalisation of land or anything. Just a tax on the value of land. He said "the solution was under his feet all the time".

There are many organisations pushing his views strongly today. Even the Labour and LibDems have LVT lobby bodies. I'm sure not about the Tories - I doubt they ever would being funded a number of large landed gentry. Although I have met a few that are strong supporters.

[ChrisGeorge]

When Henry George, the creator of LVT, died in 1897 in the USA, 100,000 people turned up for his funeral. A man the rich and powerful have tried to air-brush from history. His views are getting stronger and stronger around the world.

Sorry. I am not familiar with the term "LVT"! Acronyms!!!!

I similarly dislike "LVP" for late Victorian period, or "JTR" for Jack the Ripper.

What is "LVT", Waterways? Thanks in advance for explaining.

Chris

[Waterways]

Sorry. I am not familiar with the term "LVT"! Acronyms!!!!

I similarly dislike "LVP" for late Victorian period, or "JTR" for Jack the Ripper.

What is "LVT", Waterways? Thanks in advance for explaining.

Chris

Land Value Tax.

[signalnorth]

Sirob, just wondering if you'd had chance to scan anymore of your fab pics of the clc extension to Southport. Would love to see more!

[Sirob]

Some more Co-op terracotta decoration, plus a 1936 advert. Was this the facade used?

[Sirob]

Here are pics of the 1971 Grand National, which proves that you get a better view on the telly!!!

[ItsaZappathing]

Excellent as usual Sirob. Very fitting for the day.

[Waterways]

What a dump the course was in those days.

[wsteve55]

You can say that again Waterways! I was an extra in the film about Bob champion,in the early 80's, and I was at Aintree for about 6 days. I couldnt believe what a decrepit dump it was, and I was being told,this is the home of the most famous horse race in the world? Well,it certainly didn't show! The course now looks worthy of that title

[scouse smurf]

These have probably already been posted, but I couldn't see them when I had a quick look so here ya go...

Liverpool Postcards

[wsteve55]

Some interesting pic's thereSS,especially the one's of St.John's gardens,with the railings still up!