Im so sorry Kev as someone suggested I should have asked if you wouldnt mind me extracting some of the prom features for my painting....hope its ok. When Ive done a few paintings I will post up for all to see. Its only certain details I need to know such as the docks at Garston and features across the river which will be used with some artistic license. It saves me a 150 mile drive so much appreciated. Eggyoz