Are the Irish getting remembered?

[Waterways]

I don't think that is anybody's intention here Waterways. Yo Liverpool is a Forum where people can have their say, Most of the time we all agree but don't you think it would be somewhat boring if we agreed all the time.
Occasionally it's wise to stand back and agree to differ. I have listened to many valid ponts being made during the 'Irish' debate. Points both empirical and moral.

I'm more interested in facts. The fact is we are not of predominantly Irish culture and influence as many here seem to misguidedly think.

In the last analysis we are Scousers or people who are akin to Scousers and want to be on this Forum.

Liverpool sub-culture is the one I am only interested in, which has influences from England, Scotland, Ireland, Wales, Scandinavia, Holland, China, Eastern European Jewish, etc. No others should rise above it.

[Steven]

Quote by Waterways:-

"That is how it sounds, diddly-dee. Educated? Is an honours degree good enough?"

My reply, using his language.


Tiddly um, Tiddly am
Tiddly um, Tiddly am.
If yer can't suck a lemon,
suck an owld tin can.


__________________

[Ged]

I have no real affinity to Ireland even though my surname somewhere down the line is Irish but my parents and their parents were from Liverpool, England.

However, there was an Irish community on the heavily populated Scotland Road, nearby the Italian settlers were united with them in catholocism.

Our lady's of reconciliation, Eldon Street was largely Lithuanian and artefacts and craftsmanship within these areas are from the incomers.

The Welsh did have a community in and around St. Paul's Square where chapels were built in and around the surrounding areas including Pall Mall. Of that there is no doubt as it's recorded.

Source: LRO.
2nd source SP.

[Waterways]

predominant or not, who cares?

The likes of me who wants it to be right and not skewed.

[Waterways]

Quote by Waterways:-

"That is how it sounds, diddly-dee. Educated? Is an honours degree good enough?"

My reply, using his language.


Tiddly um, Tiddly am
Tiddly um, Tiddly am.
If yer can't suck a lemon,
suck an owld tin can.

LOL!!!!

[shoney]

The likes of me who wants it to be right and skewed.

i'm not irish, have no irish blood , but i do appreciate their contribution, do you have something against the irish or what ?

[molly]

Quote by Waterways:-

"That is how it sounds, diddly-dee. Educated? Is an honours degree good enough?"

My reply, using his language.


Tiddly um, Tiddly am
Tiddly um, Tiddly am.
If yer can't suck a lemon,
suck an owld tin can.


__________________

You are educated and know your music professor.

[Waterways]

i'm not irish, have no irish blood , but i do appreciate their contribution, do you have something against the irish or what ?

Read what I wrote, I do have Irish blood in me. I have nothing against the Irish, more in favour of my own. I want no other culture being officially celebrated, especially one which had a minority influence on the city.

[Steven]

Smebody made the valid point that we are a mongrel breed here in Liverpool and we all talked with Lancashire accents before the Irish and the Welsh came.
The Irish, the Welsh and others > it is claimed, gave us our totally distinctive accent.

I totally disagree !!!!!

I think it's the draft from the Mersey tunnel which gives us that nasal sound. So we all talk through our noses.

Can I further add that the Welsh and Irish combined forces in 1933 to build that tunnel >

My dad offered to do it on his own but was turned down 'cos he couldn't get a skip. .

[Steven]

Can we have a laugh ???


Doran (Irish) and Roberts (Welsh):-

Were brought before the judge and their solicitors were asked to explain what it was all about.

It came to pass, that Doran and Roberts were in the pub having a pint, when a misunderstanding took place.
Doran thought that Roberts had insulted the Irish and so he butted him.
Roberts came up off the deck and brought his knee sharply up into Doran's groin.
Still writhing in agony, Doran managed to pick up a chair and smash it across Robert's teeth.

This led to bad feeling amongst them both ,,,,, and a fight broke out.

[molly]

The Fighting Irish

[Steven]

The Fighting Irish

Scroll back and have a bit of a laugh about it.

[Howie]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bVp7lkH10Gc

[Steven]

Cheers for that Howie Have I told you lately, Yer a Star

[Hon scouse]

Liverpool is a city that truly recognises and celebrates its diverse make up and Irish culture is not left out!

The annual Liverpool Irish Festival celebrates what it is to be Irish in Liverpool and is backed by the Culture Company - the council going some way to recongnise this important aspect of our culture. That is not only the Irish in Liverpool, the Liverpool Irish, but scousers themselves and the place of the Liverpool Irish in the wider community and the world!

As regards Famine memorial go down to St Luke's - the bombed out church and take a lok at the monument that remembers the famine. The Institute of Irish Studies had a big hand in getting it over here.

Liverpool is twinned with Dublin and at least a third of Liverpudlians have Irish ancestry - just look at the surnames in a phone book, many of Irish derivation. We have a very strong Irish influence, not only historically but because we are so close - we face Ireland and are the first port of call between Ireland and the rest of Europe.

As regards recognising our many different cultures - we do!

Some examples:

The new museum of Liverpool that opens in 2010 will be opening with an exhibition on Welsh culture and the history of the Welsh in Liverpool.

http://www.liverpoolblackhistory.co.uk/
http://www.liverpool-welsh.co.uk/
http://www.liverpoolchildrensfestival.org.uk/
http://www.bbc.co.uk/liverpool/conte..._feature.shtml

to name but a few!

It is important that all cultures are recognised and that we all know how our fine city got to where it is today through the influence, hard work and sometimes suffering of our many and people.