Ringo Starr should be ashamed

[peter]

met george harrison ,and in his own words he would have called ross a midland banker, he's trying to belittle liverpool like so many other other jealous
non scousers. best to ignore him and not give him the hype that he has to thrive on, certainly didnt get where he is today on talent.

[Howie]

Beatles' Ringo is a falling Starr
Published: 21 Jan 2008


Mersey bleat ... Ringo Starr

I KNOW it’s blasphemous to sl*g off a BEATLE.

But I wasn’t the only one who thought RINGO STARR was a bit of t*t on JONATHAN ROSS’s TV show on Friday.

As Ringo helped launch Liverpool’s Capital Of Culture year, you would have thought the drummer could have found something positive to say about the city.

But Surrey-based Ringo, who also has a flat in Chelsea, admitted he rarely returns to his home city and doesn’t miss a thing about it.

Then, when asked if he would move back there, he pulled a comedy face.

Radio phone-ins in the city received loads of complaints and there have been tirades against him on the internet.

One angry Scouser wrote: “I wonder how much we paid for him to appear. I bet there were some red faces.”

I’m also told Ringo had to MIME new single Liverpool 8 on GMTV last week.

When he took to the mic to rehearse, he discovered he was too croaky to pull it off and was persuaded to just mouth the words.

The decision caused chaos when producers realised no one had a copy of the track for him to mime to.

A GMTV source said: “There was a massive panic on. His voice was too croaky but he’s a perfectionist so it was decided it would make sense for him to mime.

“We had to download the single but struggled. Fortunately, we managed it just seconds before he was due to sing.”

I guess Ringo got by with a little help from his friends.

Source: The Sun

[Howie]

Ringo Starr: There’s nothing I miss in Liverpool
Jan 21 2008
by Richard Down, Liverpool Daily Post

DAYS after former Beatle Ringo Starr made a triumphant homecoming on the roof of St George’s Hall, he has been lambasted for flippant comments made about Liverpool on national television.

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[shoney]

in ringo's defence does liverpool owe ringo something for putting the place on the map in the sad 60's before anyone knew where the place was before these guys rocked the world, or does liverpool own him and he should be at the beck and call of all liverpudlians to keep telling everyone it is a great place when it is obvious that it needs more than a CoC makeover, plus he's his own man, tell your average scouser that he shouldn't be wearing those jeans or that he talks a bit funny cos he left the place to make a better life for him and his kids and i'm sure he'll tell you to F off, even if he is a great drummer or a crap singer, get real, he belongs to nobody, where was tarby, gerry , and cilla, , think about it, sentimentalists do my head in. I love the place but thats my fault nobody elses.

[Mark R]

I wouldn't say nobody knew where Liverpool was until the Beatles came around. It was known for its architecture and as a port on a world scale. Also the shipping companies of White Star and Cunard.

[ChrisGeorge]

in ringo's defence does liverpool owe ringo something for putting the place on the map in the sad 60's before anyone knew where the place was before these guys rocked the world, or does liverpool own him and he should be at the beck and call of all liverpudlians to keep telling everyone it is a great place when it is obvious that it needs more than a CoC makeover, plus he's his own man, tell your average scouser that he shouldn't be wearing those jeans or that he talks a bit funny cos he left the place to make a better life for him and his kids and i'm sure he'll tell you to F off, even if he is a great drummer or a crap singer, get real, he belongs to nobody, where was tarby, gerry , and cilla, , think about it, sentimentalists do my head in. I love the place but thats my fault nobody elses.

Hi Shoney

It seems to me that Scousers suffer from a inferiority complex. There's also been an attitude starting in the Sixties that the Beatles turned their backs on the city, and that sentiment still remains: the only way you can be a "real Scouser" is to still live in the city. Tarbuck and Cilla have been criticized for similarly not living in the city and for not coming back. Ringo's remark was ill advised but on the other hand people should be able to look past it -- it was similar to the smart guy quips the Beatles always made. With his "Liverpool 08" CD he is spreading the word about Liverpool to people who might not know about what Liverpool has to offer.

Chris

[Cadfael]

Hi Shoney

It seems to me that Scousers suffer from a inferiority complex. There's also been an attitude starting in the Sixties that the Beatles turned their backs on the city, and that sentiment still remains: the only way you can be a "real Scouser" is to still live in the city. Tarbuck and Cilla have been criticized for similarly not living in the city and for not coming back. Ringo's remark was ill advised but on the other hand people should be able to look past it -- it was similar to the smart guy quips the Beatles always made. With his "Liverpool 08" CD he is spreading the word about Liverpool to people who might not know about what Liverpool has to offer.

Chris

It's very true. If someone s l a g s (this word was beeped out!) off Liverpool to me, I'm not in the slightest bit bothered. Will it change me? Add or subtract money in my pocket? Not at all. The very people that are truly proud of their city will think nothing of s l a g ging off people who have left the area while dumping their chip paper on the ground. How many of these people have ever done anything for liverpool? Become a helper in a Liverpool hospital? Become a guide for the Cathedral's unpaid? No, they just sit around until someone has a go at Liverpool and it's like they are being personally attacked. Worry something about else for a change, like the cure for cancer or the millions of old folk struggling in the world rather than thinking that everything said about Liverpool is a direct insult.

I wonder how many people have noted the millions that Ringo has given away to charities in the past?

If I had lots of money, I'd probably move to the Isle of Man. Does that make me the bad guy? Sometimes people do more for Liverpool when living outside of it than the people inside the city.

[shoney]

Hi Shoney

It seems to me that Scousers suffer from a inferiority complex. There's also been an attitude starting in the Sixties that the Beatles turned their backs on the city, and that sentiment still remains: the only way you can be a "real Scouser" is to still live in the city. Tarbuck and Cilla have been criticized for similarly not living in the city and for not coming back. Ringo's remark was ill advised but on the other hand people should be able to look past it -- it was similar to the smart guy quips the Beatles always made. With his "Liverpool 08" CD he is spreading the word about Liverpool to people who might not know about what Liverpool has to offer.

Chris

sorry chris, i've had a big night out and a few drinks and i may not be reading / writing this right but in my own experience which i admit i have grown out of now i find it's not an inferiority complex its a superiority complex, and i know i love the people /family and places i have left behind but you need to leave the place for a while to get things into perspective.

[ChrisGeorge]

sorry chris, i've had a big night out and a few drinks and i may not be reading / writing this right but in my own experience which i admit i have grown out of now i find it's not an inferiority complex its a superiority complex, and i know i love the people /family and places i have left behind but you need to leave the place for a while to get things into perspective.

I agree that it helps to leave the place to put things in perspective. On the other hand, I suppose some still in Liverpool would say that people such as you and I, or indeed Ringo or Paul, who no longer live in the city, are out of touch, and that's perhaps a fair comment as well.

Chris

[Ged]

Some people need to get a life. In 1964, the Beatles, when interviewed about their all conquering trip to the USA were asked 'How did you find America', John quipped 'We turned left at Greenland'

No-one in the U.S. found this a flippant put down, that they weren't raving about 'their' precious homeland etc etc - do you know what they did instead those people went out and bought millions and millions of their records that gave a Liverpool group another piece of history -the top 5 songs in the U.S. Billboard, never done before or bettered since.

The quip was so obviously tongue in cheek (have you seen his previous interviews, he always plays up to the camera) and yet with a hint of truth and he did go on right afterwards to say he loves Liverpool and in his 08 interview says you can live anywhere but he'll always be from Liverpool. If he hadn't shown up for the opening ceromony it'd have been moaners about him being arrogant and thinking he was too big for it or something and if he really came to just advertise his new single, wouldn't he have 'lied' and said 'oh yeah, Liverpool is great blah blah blah' - some things don't need stating.

As an aside, some little corrections. Ringo wasn't wheeled out of retirement as he tours every few years, Ringo didn't sing When i'm 64 and around 40% of those hits weren't written in the 50s and early 60s. They are also not a roadblock when it comes to celebrating the city's famous - they are a big part of it.

[ChrisGeorge]

Well said, Cadfael and Ged.

Chris

[verdi]

I did not see the interview, I don't like Jonathan Woss. Apparently ringo gave an interview on Steve Wright show on the Friday, which praised Liverpool and 08, I haven't seen one post on that here. So maybe it was the type of questions he was asked?

[lindylou]

sorry chris, i've had a big night out and a few drinks and i may not be reading / writing this right but in my own experience which i admit i have grown out of now i find it's not an inferiority complex its a superiority complex, and i know i love the people /family and places i have left behind but you need to leave the place for a while to get things into perspective.

that's more like it - we have a superiority complex.- becuse we are !

No one is like us and we have a unique identity.

liverpool is the centre of the universe

[ChrisGeorge]

that's more like it - we have a superiority complex.- becuse we are !


No one is like us and we have a unique identity.

liverpool is the centre of the universe

[pasha]

to be honest i understand what ringo meant he when he said he misses nothing about liverpool. when he left the city there was nothing there to keep him, when i left there was nothing to keep me either, no employment,no prospects this was 1979 so off i went to work in the i.o.m for 2 years. after that north wales and i have been here ever since. i do go home now and again to visist my family but i would never go back to live there. i would never **** of the city of my birth though and the people we have the best humour,personality, and i am very proud to say i am a scouser i just wanted to better myself no harm in that. to be honest does liverpool really need him back (i think not) there are plenty of other famous liverpool born people who could promote the city in a much better light. we have one of the best actors in the world i think pete posselwaite (not sure how you spell it) for example. anyway liverpool was on the map before the beatles i dont think he owes it anything and the city owes him nothing, thats just my opinion.
debbie