I'm NOT interested in feeding any flames or prolonging an inquiry where a direct response is being avoided; I was just hoping that Kevin would be able to explain how the distaste felt not just by me or John but by several other members, some of whom have now left the forum, is different from that expressed by him in those early pages of this thread. I have not been abusive, though others have; they seem to be the ones who insist on continually stoking things up. I, however, like Kevin will leave it now.