Could we have close-ups and the whole building please?
I know where there's a beast and a date, together.
Not far from me.
I'll snap it tomorrow.
Glad you like the idea of this thread. Years ago I did some pencil drawings of old local datestones for a projected history book I was going to write. I was just a teenager at the time. Another datestone worth photographing is on Springwood Cottages, Brocklebank Lane and Mather Avenue, the date "1684" enclosed in a heart with initials. "The Cottage" on Springwood Avenue, south of Allerton Hall, has the date "1639" above the main door. Also the house known as "The Three Sixes" on Aigburth Road near Aigburth Vale at the entrance to Fulwood Park and opposite the gates of Sefton Park: the datestone states "1666" and gave the name to the house. An old photograph of the house appears in Robert Griffiths' The History of the Royal and Ancient Park of Toxteth Liverpool (1907). I think the old date stone of the original Brook House is set in the wall of the bowling green of the present Brook House on Smithdown Road. It is also pictured in Griffiths' book.
I suppose the ultimate date is on the gate of 'Park Lodge'...AD 1207. I'm not sure what, if any, is original in this building, though.
Certainly the date on the gate "1207" is based on the designation in Robert Griffiths' history of Toxteth as the "Higher Lodge" of King John but whether such a lodge was actually built in 1207 at that spot or sometime during the middle ages appears unknown. I somehow think 1207 was a bit early for the house to be built. As you probably know there are pictured bits and pieces of slabs of sandstone that were supposedly from the facade of the original lodge photographed on the lawn of the house shown in Griffiths' book (p. 26).
I have started another thread on Toxteth Park Higher and Lower Lodges where I speak in detail about both lodges.
This is on the 'Wedding Shop' building in St George's Place.
The initials are 'N S W B'
Anyone know what these stand for?
There's a similar one on Walton Breck rd, L4.
Must take a picture sometime.
The dairy has now been converted into flats. I remember when it was open as a dairy.
In regard to the gates of the Higher Lodge with the date "1207" on them, though these are obviously new gates with the date of 1207 given to commemorate the fact that the house at this location was the lodge of the Royal Park founded by King John, it brings to mind that there was (or is) a well in Garston where the old mill stood, almost opposite to St. Mary's Church that had the date "1292." Coincidentally, this is the same year Adam de Gerstan gave monastic lands in the area to the monks of Stanlaw Abbey and Upholland. I spoke to the late Stanley Harris, a local historian, in the early Sixties, and his view was that the date was added later by somebody who knew something of that history. Actual dates on buildings etc are rare before the 1500's and would in any case more likely to be in Roman numerals not arabic numerals.