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    Default The infill is back

    the greedy don't give up easily......application 06F/2292
    This is 06F/1421 withdrawn now re-submitted. Peal want to make £20 million
    creating land from dock. yes its Waterloo west dock again.
    Backfill to 0.5 metres below quayside level.


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    Pic of the area would be great.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kev View Post
    Pic of the area would be great.

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    Hi waterways,

    Sorry to show my ignorance but how does the canal link proposal fit into this?

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    Default PLeae email the planning Dpt

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    Proposal Number:
    06F/2292

    Jon Woodward
    Planning Department
    Liverpool City Council
    Municiple Buildings
    Dale Street
    L69 2DH

    I advise all to make an objection by letter or email ASAP to the filling in of West Waterloo Dock

    Email for objection:
    jon.woodward@liverpool.gov.uk

    Some point for objection. I'm sure you can think of more:

    1. West Waterloo dock is historic nearly 200 years old, dating from 1834.
    2. The historic dock is a part of the rich heritage of Liverpool
    3. The dock forms a water environment for the flats between West Waterloo Dock and East Waterloo Dock. The residents bought those flats because of the water environment the locale offered. This will be obliterated.
    4. Filling in of the dock further obliterates the "City On The Water”, which the city was promised the redundant docks would be, transforming the city to world renowned Amsterdam or Hamburg.
    5. Dock being filled in as a convenient dump for waste material for the canal developer.
    6. Filling in the dock degrades the water based environment of the area for future developments.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Howie View Post
    Hi waterways,

    Sorry to show my ignorance but how does the canal link proposal fit into this?
    Look at the picture above. Above the West Waterloo Dock is the filled in Trafalgar Dock (this was supposed to be temporary). To the right of this was the Victoria and Trafalgar branch Docks that ran east-west. All three are now filled in. The canal was planned to run from West Waterloo from where the island is between West and East Waterloo docks, with the flats on. It was to go through the in-filled Trafalgar Dock into Collingwood Dock.

    They want to fill in all of the West Waterloo Dock and continue the canal to the right of the of the existing dock. This creates a large land area which they can sell off.

    It destroys the dock waters here. In the picture the large land area benhind the Eat and West Waterloo Docks are the in-filled: Clarence, Victoria, Trafalgar branch and Trafalar Docks. If that isn't enough for them they now want to fill in West Waterloo Docks as well.

    ENOUGH is ENOUGH.

    What they are doing is extending the land out to the river. This destroys any water based environment in which interesting advanced design buildings could be built around. The City on the Water we were promised

    Canal detail below. The picture of the Royal Iris at the bottom. She is berthed in the now filled in Trafalgar Dock. Ocean going ships from all over the world berthed in these docks. Now they want real ale drinking weirdoes with beards in tiny narrows boats to use the area. Pretty disgusting eliminate our history and Heritage.

    BTW, Waterloo Docks were where the American Packet ships berthed and took many immigrants to America - and they want it to become a tiny boating canal for narrow boats that have no history in the docks.

    http://www.waterways.org.uk/wcc/Liverpool%20Link.pdf
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    I've sent mine John these people are holding our city to ransom with CoC 2008 being disrupted,I'd threaten then with if you persist with this let's fill in docks rubbish then the canal link will be put on hold until 2009.

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    So basically what they dig out for the canal they are going to put in West Waterloo dock rather than having to cart and dump elsewhere thereby saving money, and then sell off the new land for a huge profit as well.

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    Default Send an email to all councillors

    What we need everyone to send an email to all the Liverpool Councillors. The list is below. What we need is for you to send an email requesting that the following three points are implemented.

    a) The filling in of West Waterloo Dock defeated. Planning application No. 06F/2292

    b) A cast in concrete policy that preserves all docks and waterways in Liverpool. How can we have a future city on the water without them?

    c) Excavating infilled docks when future plans are proposed to ensure the City on the Water. Harrington, Toxteth, parts of the Herculaneum, Trafalgar and Victoria docks can all easily be excavated and re-instated with top class developments around them.


    Email List of Liverpool city councillors: Cut and paste this into the BBC field on your email editor.

    karen.afford@liverpool.gov.uk; elaine.allen@liverpool.gov.uk; peter.r.allen@liverpool.gov.uk; joe.anderson@liverpool.gov.uk; dave.antrobus@liverpool.gov.uk; rose.bailey@liverpool.gov.uk; louise.baldock@liverpool.gov.uk; violet.bebb@liverpool.gov.uk; gideon.ben-tovim@liverpool.gov.uk; vera.best@liverpool.gov.uk; warren.bradley@liverpool.gov.uk; paul.brant@liverpool.gov.uk; linda-jane.buckle@liverpool.gov.uk; paul.clark@liverpool.gov.uk; eddie.clein@liverpool.gov.uk; jan.clein@liverpool.gov.uk; paul.clein@liverpool.gov.uk; flo.clucas@liverpool.gov.uk; john.clucas@liverpool.gov.uk; barbara.collinge@liverpool.gov.uk; frank.cooke@liverpool.gov.uk; jane.corbett@liverpool.gov.uk; john.coyne@liverpool.gov.uk; alan.dean@liverpool.gov.uk; frank.doran@liverpool.gov.uk; colin.eldridge@liverpool.gov.uk; alan.fearnehough@liverpool.gov.uk; marilyn.fielding@liverpool.gov.uk; kevin.firth@liverpool.gov.uk; beatrice.fraenkel@liverpool.gov.uk; roz.gladden@liverpool.gov.uk; ron.gould@liverpool.gov.uk; tina.gould@liverpool.gov.uk; dave.hanratty@liverpool.gov.uk; joseph.hanson@liverpool.gov.uk; jhanson6@jaguar.com; ann.hines@liverpool.gov.uk; patricia.holleran@liverpool.gov.uk; danny.hughes@liverpool.gov.uk; graham.hulme@liverpool.gov.uk; stephen.hurst@liverpool.gov.uk; david.irving@liverpool.gov.uk; ian.jobling@liverpool.gov.uk; roger.johnston@liverpool.gov.uk; doreen.jones@liverpool.gov.uk; trevor.jones@liverpool.gov.uk; paula.keaveney@liverpool.gov.uk; malcolm.kelly@liverpool.gov.uk; erica.kemp@liverpool.gov.uk; richard.kemp@liverpool.gov.uk; malcolm.kennedy@liverpool.gov.uk; doreen.knight@liverpool.gov.uk; joan.lang@liverpool.gov.uk; chris.lenton@liverpool.gov.uk; barbara.mace@liverpool.gov.uk; andrew.makinson@liverpool.gov.uk; richard.marbrow@liverpool.gov.uk; thomas.marshall@liverpool.gov.uk; john.mcintosh@liverpool.gov.uk; peter.millea@liverpool.gov.uk; norman.mills@liverpool.gov.uk; stuart.monkcom@liverpool.gov.uk; josephine.mullen@liverpool.gov.uk; stephen.munby@liverpool.gov.uk; chris.newby@liverpool.gov.uk; richard.oglethorpe@liverpool.gov.uk; bob.ousby@liverpool.gov.uk; ian.phillips@liverpool.gov.uk; frank.prendergast@liverpool.gov.uk; robbie.quinn@liverpool.gov.uk; steve.radford@liverpool.gov.uk; irene.rainey@liverpool.gov.uk; kiron.reid@liverpool.gov.uk; richard.j.roberts@liverpool.gov.uk; steven.rotheram@liverpool.gov.uk; anna.rothery@liverpool.gov.uk; jean.seddon@liverpool.gov.uk; laurence.sidorczuk@liverpool.gov.uk; nick.small@liverpool.gov.uk; jack.spriggs@liverpool.gov.uk; nadia.stewart@liverpool.gov.uk; mike.storey@liverpool.gov.uk; sharon.sullivan@liverpool.gov.uk; andrew.tremarco@liverpool.gov.uk; berni.turner@liverpool.gov.uk; keith.turner@liverpool.gov.uk; alan.walker@liverpool.gov.uk; pauline.walton@liverpool.gov.uk; richard.white@liverpool.gov.uk; ben.williams@liverpool.gov.uk; hazel.williams@liverpool.gov.uk

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    Fill it in, spoil the view for the second homers.... its more money for the council coffers, good stuff!!.

    A dock will attract rats , a canal will attract tourists as well as rats.


    I too want a Salford on the Mersey.

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    Quote Originally Posted by FKoE View Post
    Fill it in, spoil the view for the second homers.
    If you say so. Bitter and twisted as well. Should anyone not living in a council house be shot dead too?

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    Its a pool of useless water with minimal historical significance to the modern metropolis of Liverpool .

    I want progress and to attract tourists. Fill it in, build a Canal.

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    Quote Originally Posted by FKoE View Post
    Its a pool of useless water with minimal historical significance to the modern metropolis of Liverpool .
    It dates from 1834. Waterloo Dock was the base of the American packet ships which populated the new world. Of course no historical significance whatsoever - that is why UNESCO made the whole lot a world heritage zone.

    I want progress and to attract tourists. Fill it in, build a Canal.
    Do you want arcade games as well.

    It is clear you are intellectually challenged, compounded by a Philistine mentality. Sad but true. Thank God people like you don't have influence and power. I forgot they do.

    You are right. We should make Liverpool a complete council house sink estate. Yes, that is what we need. That is the future. I have seen the light. Sister Anna carry the banner.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Waterways View Post
    It dates from 1834. Waterloo Dock was the base of the American packet ships which populated the new world. Of course no historical significance whatsoever - that is why UNESCO made the whole lot a world heritage zone.
    Liverpools a world heritage zone based on Waterloo dock, and some water? ... Its meaning less, its not why Liverpool is Capital of culture... Fill it in, do future generations a favour, give them job opportunities, build a canal and create berths for canal boats, build canal side cafes restaruants and bars, breath some life into the area.



    You are right. We should make Liverpool a complete council house sink estate. Yes, that is what we need. That is the future. I have seen the light. Sister Anna carry the banner.

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