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    What about the Welsh community ?

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    The Welsh built many of our houses and had a notable influence on our city.
    There are still quite a few Welsh churches scattered around various districts.

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    Um, Hi! There is a Welsh community, very small group

    this is a discussion that raises it's head often in our family. The tiny remaining Welsh community in Liverpool appears to be a direct corrolation to the hords of people returning to Wales with Hiraeth (Belonging or home sickness)

    There doesn't seem to be much in the way of youth movement, not in the Universities or within the few remaining chapels.

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    I don't think the Welsh influence in Liverpool gets much attention.
    The focus has always been on Irish ancestry, maybe because the Irish were here in greater numbers perhaps. The Welsh did such a lot of building and many streets were built entirely by them. I think their presence in L'pool tends to get overlooked at times.

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    It doesn't do a lot to help itself. It's never gone out of it's way to promote the language or culture outside of Wales (it has a hard enough job inside of Wales I suppose)

    You never see Welsh themed pubs or Welsh products having a large scale advertising campaign (this recent high profie Magners Cider) adverts for instance.

    It has a lot of culture, and a massive diaspora to promote as well. It's one of the reasons it's such a shame some stuffy memebers of the Welsh Communiy faught so hard against having the 2007 Eisterfod in Liverpool, insted forcing it of Mold, Flintshire, a horribly cash strapped council.

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    I think you are right Wormella. The Welsh community always kept quietly to themselves and there never has been any promotion of their culture.

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    Wales is the home of King Calzaghe.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Wormella
    It's one of the reasons it's such a shame some stuffy memebers of the Welsh Communiy faught so hard against having the 2007 Eisterfod in Liverpool, insted forcing it of Mold, Flintshire, a horribly cash strapped council.
    I think it was refered to as the 'Scousteddfod' at one point.

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    In 1813, one in ten people living in Liverpool was of Welsh origin, with many only able to speak Welsh.
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    Quote Originally Posted by kev
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    Thanks for creating this thread Fantastic info Wormella
    One of these days I might get orginised enough to make it to a service - it's just getting to the other side of town on a Sunday morning when I'm not in work that makes it a bit tricky.

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    Smile WALES

    HI
    I also would like to know why wales is not mentioned much? a lot of the streets are welsh names, bala street, bala is 40 min away from me,conway st,hoywell st, rhyl st.
    Im sure there are others as well but at the moment i am having a relapse with my ms so not thinkin too staight.
    Loads of people from liverpool come here on holiday my father in law is a scouser all his family still live in bootle, my kids think scousers are great well the ones they have met.
    So yes Wales should get mentioned more.
    If no one liked it here why come on holiday here?
    take care
    love deb1 proud welsh girl

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    ... and there's Powis st, Kinmel st, Gwydir st, Treborth. Maybe some more I've forgotten.

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    there is a bit of info here on the Scottie press site...


    http://www.scottiepress.org.uk/main.htm


    I know that one part of Vauxhall named the streets in a certain way so that the first letters of each street would spell out names. they where built by Welsh workmen and looking at the map of the streets side by side, the first letter of each one would spell out Owens or Jones etc. I will look through my books for it and post it up.

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    OOPS sorry

    go to the link above. when in choose SEARCH from the left hand column.

    Then type in WELSH STREET NAMES. a few threads come up..

    Choose the first thread, most info there.

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    Cheers Gnomie

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