cheers :) love this thread :)
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cheers :) love this thread :)
:thumbsup: Good thread isn't been looking round for ages only just found it :)
Have just had a look through this thread and couldn't find the pic you mentioned chris so took this this morning.Quote:
Originally Posted by ChrisGeorge
http://i934.photobucket.com/albums/a...1/DSC03079.jpg
Great to see. Thank you, Tony.
Chris
Great images guys.
I've never heard of this place? "The Brook House" presumably after the Tue-brook? 1615 predates the Old Dock by 100 years - Wow!
Which road, street is it in?
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Originally Posted by dazza
daz, the Gothic Lettering may be confusing you. It actually says "Tue Brook House" not "The Brook House". It is in West Derby Road.
Hi Chris/Daz, The cottage is actually in Mill Bank, that's the road running from West Derby Road up to Queens Drive.
Sorry to be so pedantic! :lol:
Many thanks for the correction, anonymouse. Nice to have your local knowledge to help us!
C
Might there be a sacred spring at the head of this Brook? Tue being some srt of War-God.
For what it's worth, on early maps the name is given as "Tew Brook." Liverpool museums - What's in a name: TuebrookQuote:
Originally Posted by Oudeis
Well Chris you know that all War-Gods settle for a simple, "Yes Sir!" .It would be Tue-Tew dangerous to do otherwise. ;)
And it's Haunted:eek:
Haunted, you say Birdy. So there's "Woo woo" at the Hue Hoo?
Water fountain facing Jolly Miller
http://i934.photobucket.com/albums/a...wateryoooo.jpg
http://i934.photobucket.com/albums/a...ntainyoooo.jpg
Any ideas what this is ?
A friend is asking !
I think its for Gas / Eleccy or Water...
It's a benchmark symbol.Quote:
Originally Posted by hmtmaj
"ft in" seems obvious.
Otherwise, I don't know.
Very unusual.
I thought they may have put numbers between the 2 lines but they've been nicked ages ago !
Which one of the companies would be able to use ER. Could it be something to do with the GPO/Telecom ?
Thats an old Mail Box,its that rusty the opening has practically disapeared.
Mail Box ?Quote:
Originally Posted by George
It's about 18 inches high I think !
Well, parents used to sent their little kids out with the post. They'd never be able to reach the higher boxes
Did a educated guess search on google image search of found this
http://www.flickr.com/photos/20814240@N00/4178605383
Well only mail boxes in Elizabeths day sported ER whats behind it?
I'll eat me hat.
How's it taste, george ?
Here's another link with some more info
http://airfieldinformationexchange.o...r-post&p=39433
Just a guess scouse smurf, but the space beneath the "ft in" letters, it looks like a panel for sliding a plaque into? Maybe the depth in feet and inches to the cable was recorded there - which would vary from sign to sign.Quote:
Originally Posted by scouse smurf
My best guess anyway?
It's an ordnance survey benchmark.
So its a marker to say theres a joint in the telephone line ...
Cheers all, Mart
A permanently affixed mark that establishes the exact elevation of a place; used by Surveyors in measuring site elevations, or as a starting point for Surveys.
Obviously not used in the modern day anymore, but the slot was where they positioned their instrument. (ooer missus)
http://benchmarks.ordnancesurvey.co....663779::NO:3::
Its round the corner from you Mark !Quote:
Originally Posted by JMLE
I've seen a fair few around and about. There's an OS benchmark etched on the obelisk by Doddy's house too.
East Prescot Road by the Knotty Ash Medical Centre?Quote:
Originally Posted by hmtmaj
On Liverpool Docks - they used to use ODS [Old Dock Sill] as an established datum. Wiki here.
I wonder whether any of these ODS datum markers remain?
ps. the Old Dock site is open to the public from today.
Its on E Prescot Rd behind the Aldi.
Thanks for these links.Quote:
Originally Posted by scouse smurf
If the symbol isn't exactly a benchmark, it's something similar.
The space is for the location for whatever this stone refers to.
I'm still mystified.
Hope somebody can supply the answer
It's definately an OS benchmark. Here's a bit more info...
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Benchmark_(surveying)
Here's a snippet of how they measure the tides using a benchmark and it started in Liverpool...
The main bench mark is near Tolcarne School and frequent checks are made to determine if there is the slightest shrinkage between the observatory and the main bench mark. By deducting 9.9 feet from the Ordnance Datum the recordings on the admiralty chart for Mount's Bay can be arrived by. Newlyn was chosen as the base for the tidal observatory because, after many years of constantly monitoring the tides, it was found to be the most constant. The first O.S. selected datum point in 1840 was 100 feet below a bench mark on St. John's church, Liverpool, and a few years later at the Victoria Docks where tidal observations were taken every five minutes. From 1844 the approximate sea level was adopted from the Liverpool datum and was the accepted reading form 80 years.
Ha,Ha, it's for the little people like A.D.W.:unibrow:Quote:
Originally Posted by hmtmaj
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Originally Posted by JMLE
What made me wonder if it wasn't exactly a benchmark was one of your earlier links which mentions a horizontal line above the arrow, on a benchmark.
Your link above says what the horizontal line was for (which I didn't know).
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The term benchmark originates from the chiseled horizontal marks that surveyors made in stone structures, into which an angle-iron could be placed to form a "bench" for a leveling rod, thus ensuring that a leveling rod could be accurately repositioned in the same place in future. These marks were usually indicated with a chiseled arrow below the horizontal line.
The height of a benchmark is calculated relative to the heights of nearby benchmarks in a network extending from a fundamental benchmark, a point with a precisely known relationship to the level datum of the area, typically mean sea level. The position and height of each benchmark is shown on large-scale maps.
The terms "height" and "elevation" are often used interchangeably, but in many jurisdictions they have specific meanings; "height" commonly refers to a local or relative difference in the vertical (such as the height of a building), whereas "elevation" refers to the difference from a nominated reference surface (such as sea-level, or a mathematical/geodetic concept known as the geoid).