Yep, sure can't hurt to clean up our act.Quote:
Originally Posted by Waterways
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Yep, sure can't hurt to clean up our act.Quote:
Originally Posted by Waterways
Love it! All the Blair Babe has to do it take a look at my photos to see that I'm no Tory or BNP member, but when you're as right-wing as the Labour Party and its members are, I suppose photos of people on strike could cause heart attacks or worse!Quote:
Originally Posted by pablo42
That is what I want. If we clean up emissions, then emissions are down whether it is real or not.Quote:
Originally Posted by pablo42
What are all those flags? You are also very fat.Quote:
Originally Posted by RonnieW
Blair and Straw. The men who put the 'National' back into 'Socialism'. :)
You are still very fat.Quote:
Originally Posted by RonnieW
Ha, why do you say that?Quote:
Originally Posted by Waterways
A draw?? But such a pity the news of the the peace accord, never reached the Brit's/Scots troops, before the battle of New Orleans,where they were decimated by the militia's defending the town,basically because they had no ladders to scale the earthworks/defences!!!!Quote:
Originally Posted by Waterways
Aye aye,haven't you started your diet!:unibrow:Quote:
Originally Posted by pablo42
I am sure I am one of the few that whilst i did not like ThatcheR she was right for her time we had a mining industry that would not accept it was bust but wanted the country to fund ongoing insolvency ditto British Leyland the mainreason she was re-elected was there was no credible Labour alternative I would also say the reason Blair was re-elected there was no credible Con alternative which brings us to today most of the country wants this government out and Cameron whilst hardly credible is acceptable only because the Brown out is so adamant
. I would also ask this question................ If the expenses malarkey was going on 30 years ago Who do you think would be up before the beak ?
Blair
Thatcher
Callaghan
Heseltine
Healy
Lamont
Churchill
Hume
Heath
add any other names you desire
I had another look at his anarchist party photos and was still fat.Quote:
Originally Posted by pablo42
Ha, don't think he's talking about me. Well, hope not.Quote:
Originally Posted by wsteve55
Not nice though, all the same WW.Quote:
Originally Posted by Waterways
Yes, it's not nice, but completely typical of the ignorant to refer to an 'anarchist party'. How could there ever be an 'anarchist' party except in the uncomprehending mind of inbred simpletons?Quote:
Originally Posted by pablo42
http://deandonaldson.files.wordpress...new_labour.jpg
Don't seem that you two get on too well. Is there a history there?Quote:
Originally Posted by RonnieW
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Originally Posted by pablo42
There certainly is! I can't stand these supporters of political parties who are out to do away with our civil liberties, who support dangerous nut case regimes (like George Bush for instance) who sell arms to dodgy didctators, who encourage racism, who run down the NHS, run down public transport, close schools and bomb babies in the Third World. You know, Labour Party hacks and others who support the rich. People like Watercloset for example.
Surely WW is against that too?Quote:
Originally Posted by RonnieW
He can't be. He supports the Labour Party. New Labour = Slave Labour!Quote:
Originally Posted by pablo42
Then why does your party have flags then? And many fat people waving them?Quote:
Originally Posted by RonnieW
I am and do not wave flags and I am not fat.Quote:
Originally Posted by pablo42
He is entertaining isn't he? He waves flags.Quote:
Originally Posted by RonnieW
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Originally Posted by RonnieW
According to The Oxford Companion to Philosophy, "there is no single defining position that all anarchists hold,
There appears to anarchy within the anarchists.
Q. What does an anarchist taxi service look like?
A. The driver-passenger relationship represents an essential hierarchical relationship which must be broken down through long co-operative discussion and decision-making. Once all the occupants of the taxi are on equal terms, and those external to the taxi are aware and comfortable with their freedom to associate or disassociate with those within the taxi, discussions of possible destinations can begin in earnest.
Q: Why do anarchists always drink herbal tea?
A: Because proper tea is theft
Soooo, can we have a show of hands to determine who was the worst PM?
I can't vote, as I don't live there, but I am curious about the outcome.
Well Maggie Thatcher helped me when I was made redundant and when I left Bolton to seek seafaring employment at the Shipping Federation in Liverpool, even tho` I was registered there on my signing on day, No Ships In Bolton.
My own working class people at the Dole office in Bolton stopped my unemployment benefit, even tho I was looking for a ship. I wrote to Maggie Thatcher, she got my benefit re- installed. The people at the Dole Office complained that they nearly got the sack. I said they should have done then they would know what it feels like on this side of the counter.
In October I was looking for treatment at my local hospital, the NHS had closed down my department. I wrote to the Nu Labour Minister for Health, Andy Burnham, about it and was told I should not complain to the Minister.
I am still awaiting treatment.
SO Mr WaterWays. On Balance, Maggie has done me, a working class Lad more favours than this Marxist/ Trotski Government who line their own pockets at the expence of the working class.
I still think you are a closet Conservative.
Yes I left Liverpool in 1981, because of Maggie, that was the reason I left for Australia. She was destroying the North West . And I was not going to have my kids going through what we had to . We have since being in Australia. good employment, although not the best, wage problems, condition problems, the union here is very militant, thank God, and we do get some results. Having said that I do wish to, come back ,and retire in the country that I love. Keith xx
Brian,Quote:
Originally Posted by captain kong
It's nice to read of a positive personal experience, but Maggie played a large part in decimating the British Shipyards and Merchant Navy.
When shipowners wanted tax breaks to order ships from British yards, instead of foreign, they were told they had to operate in a free market economy and they wouldn't be getting any help. Consequently, most ship owners built abroad. This sounds fair, except there wasn't a free market economy - many foreign ship yards were beeing subsidised by their goverments.
When ship owners wanted incentives to keep their businesses British, again the free market argument surfaced - so many ships went foreign flag. In reality, UK shipping companies were still shifting the same amount of tonnage around the world, but with chartered foreign vessels and increasingly foreign officers and crews.
The Falklands War could only be mounted because so many British Merchant Marine vessels could be used for all the support needed. I read an article about 18 months after that war that claimed that the Merchant Navy had shrunk so much it would no longer have been possible to mount a Falklands-like offensive.
So - besides everything else she did, I blame her for the demise of the British Merchant Navy.
Did you hear about the 'British' Ship kidnapped by Somalian pirates a few weeks ago? I wasn't the slightest bit surprised to hear that there wasn't one British person on board.
That is correct Kevin. I was just making one particular point, the reason I was redundant was because Esso sold off all their tankers and charted in foreign flag tankers and with foreign crews.
When the company I worked for shrank considerably, many fellow officers were able to get jobs with foreign companies - as having officers with British tickets reduced insurance costs considerably. But it was a different matter for crew members - many of whom never worked again, at least not at sea.Quote:
Originally Posted by captain kong
I'm very proud of the time I spent at sea, and our history as a sea-going nation - but ashamed of what our politicans did to seafarers. We're an island race and will always have need of ships for imports and exports. Why should others profit from providing those services?
Don't be silly Kong!Quote:
Originally Posted by captain kong
Kong, Kong, he got it wrong
That's the pot calling the kettle.Quote:
Originally Posted by Waterways
I have asked you two questions and you refuse to answer.
You called me a "BNP fan".I have asked you twice to explain why you think that.You declined to answer.
I asked you about your experiance in the building industry,again no answer.
After wading through some of your posts,I think I could have found the answers.
1. Anyone that will not agree with you that New Labours immigration policy is right you call a BNP fan/supporter/member.That's just your ignorance.
2. As you were/are some sort of gas fitter your knowledge of buildig will be minimal.
So, until you actualy know about a subject,insted of just posting 'facts' that you have pulled off the internet,I suggest you do everyone a favour and shut the f**k up.
You do agree with BNP fans.Quote:
Originally Posted by GNASHER
We are in the EU which is open borders. That is the way it is. Get used to it we have been in the EU for near 50 years now. British workers flooded Germany in the 1980s, so much they made a TV sit-com out of it.Quote:
1. Anyone that will not agree with you that New Labours immigration policy is right you call a BNP fan/supporter/member.That's just your ignorance.
Is it? Do not assume. Graduate engineer. My knowledge of buildings is extensive. What I did or am is irrelevant, if you have a technical topic debate it. It is clear you lost when you started the, "I have been doing this for x years" bit, which cuts no ice with me - do not confuse attendance with knowledge or intelligence. The building industry is famed for cowboys who understand little of buildings.Quote:
2. As you were/are some sort of gas fitter your knowledge of buildig will be minimal.
I see kevin agreed with you - equally as pathetic then.
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Originally Posted by Waterways
The main part I was agreeing with was:
'I suggest you do everyone a favour and shut the f**k up.'
Mainly, because that is the thought that often pops into my head when I'm reading your diatribes!
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Read them and understand them - it is easier that way.Quote:
Originally Posted by kevin
OMG,ww,you are so annoying.Two legs good,four legs bad comes to mind.You must be one of the sheep,whilst most of us are like the horse,doing all the hard graft.So called intellectuals like you are idiots,all book and no street.Live in the real world,most people go into politics to do some good but become corrupted by the power(Blair).As the price of gold is at an all time high,why don't the 'New Labour' government sell our reserves to reduce the burden of high taxes and reduce the national dept.Its a good job Brown did'nt sell it when the price was at its lowest ever.Whoops,he did,maybe that why thing were so good.I show noalliegance to any political party but look at whats happening 'now' and who gives the best deal.Their all rubbish but some are worse than others.Its like listening to a scratched record,free your mind and take your blinkers off.
LabourGordon Brown's decision to sell half of the UK's gold reserves 'cost UK ?5billion'
Gordon Brown's decision to sell off part of the country's gold reserves 10 years ago cost the public purse nearly ?5billion, official figures show.
By Christopher Hope, Whitehall Editor
Published: 7:01PM GMT 07 Jan 2009
Gordon Brown's decision to sell off half the UK's gold reserves cost ?5 billion Photo: REUTERS The sale of more than half of the country's gold reserves between 1999 and 2002 has proved to be deeply controversial.
Critics say that signalling such a large sale of bullion to gold traders helped to drive the precious metal to a 20-year low.
In 17 auctions, Mr Brown as Chancellor of the Exchequer sanctioned the sale of 395 tonnes of gold.
Figures released by the Treasury show that the total proceeds from the sales was around $3.5billion. According to a Parliamentary answer, if the gold was sold last month, on December 15, it would have raised $10.5billion.
This is from Todays Telegraph.
Mr WW will no doubt say it is a lie and a Tory Paper.
GORMLESS GORDON has lost us 7,000,000,000 US DOLLARS
Did I see somewhere that Watersports had said that Blair was responsible for zero unemployment???Quote:
Originally Posted by kevin
At the time, there was an article in one of the papers (I can't recall which one) saying that many of the Merchant Navy lads had sailed with their redundancy notices in their coat pockets.Quote:
Originally Posted by kevin
For personal reasons, I'd say Thatcher just shades it over Blair. That's because my mum died while waiting an hour for an ambulance because of Tory cutbacks, my dad died because his cancer operation was delayed several times because of Tory cutbacks, same for my mother-in-law and her heart operation. No reflection on the staff at Broadgreen or the Royal who were brilliant.
But I suppose people will have similar tales to tell about Blair, especially when Labour closed Halton Hospital and left Runcorn, Widnes, Frodsham and Helsby with no hospital.
Labour also closed a secondary school in Runcorn and several primary schools. So much for 'Education, Education, Education'.
What a bunch of brigands these politicians are!
Thanks to Labour?s investment more than 4,000 schools will have been built, rebuilt or refurbished by July 2010 since 1997 ? the biggest sustained period of school building since Victorian times. We have also brought forward almost ?1 billion of schools capital investment from 2010/11 to 2009/10 to support the economy during the recession
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Originally Posted by Birdy
Where is that quote taken from?
This one is from the 1997 Labour Manifesto.
"Labour will never force the abolition of good schools whether in the private or state sector."
By the way, they're closing another secondary school in Runcorn and one in Widnes soon. None of the schools closed by Labour in Halton since 2000 had a poor Ofsted report.
Every cloud has a silver lining and several Labour councillors who voted for school closures were voted out of office. Of course, several Labour councillors have their offspring educated outside of the Borough at Frodsham, Helsby and Warrington.
As for the closure of the hospital, Warrington couldn't cope and some wards at Halton had to be re-opened. Once again, the cloud had quite a good silver lining when the Trust Chairman (and Labour councillor) who closed the hospital lost what he thought was a safe Labour seat to a Lib-Dem who had been a patient at Halton Hospital. Also getting the boot was another Labour hack who had been the longest serving councillor on HBC. Not quite as good as Portillo, but quite satisfying.