Walton Stations and Orrel Park Station - Pics courtesy of Liverpool City Library and the Records Office images:
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Walton Stations and Orrel Park Station - Pics courtesy of Liverpool City Library and the Records Office images:
Nice one Kev:PDT11
Great pics these stations make.
The old Customs House?Quote:
Originally Posted by goldenface
[QUOTE=goldenface;50982]@Oritelad
I have seen a picture of the station you are on about and I am trying to find it for you. Its a two-storey building with the platforms on the upper level.
In the mean time, I found this old picture of Exchange from here.
For 50 points can anyone tell us what the huge domed shaped building is in the background on the right?[/QUOTE]
St Paul's Church in St Paul's Square.
The Stadium was built on the site.
The first station pic is actually Walton & Anfield (Originally opened as Walton for Aintree, but the name was changed as it was very confusing for passengers, who alighted & found that Aintree was a fair few miles away!!). Walton & Anfield is not to be confused with the present Walton station on the Northern Line. It was located near to the Cherry Lane end of Walton Village & was part of the Canada Dock branch, but as with most of the stations on the line (incl Spellow, which was one stop away) it closed in 1948. There were proposals to reopen most of the stations on the Canada Dock branch, back in the 70's as part of new Merseyrail. However this never materialised and the line remained freight only. However, there is talk by Merseyrail of the possibility of reopening the branch to passengers once again in the future. You never know..!Quote:
Originally Posted by Kev
Aren´t there any old station? In Liverpool or near...
Thanks u!!
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Originally Posted by oritelad
this was taken in the late 1950s from stanley road, kirkdale station is in the distance, and on the left is bank hall, steam engine shed, which closed in 1966, theres an old electric train heading towards liverpool exchange and steam engines on shed, the sidings on the right have gone now, as as the huge coaling stage and old fashioned semaphore signals,
i know a gent who worked as a cleaner/fireman/driver on the steamers there from 1941 to 66, then he moved to edge hill, and retired in 1990
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Wow1 That must be a blast from the past for some people. How its changed now. Those old Electric Units were going for decades weren't they?
yeah the old,
london midland and scottish railway ones (LMS)
"love marraige and starvation"
and
"let me sleep"
my old driver mate who used to work for the company calls it lol
theyre from the 30s and lasted til the late 70s,
my ol mate used to have to drive them sometimes on sundays and hated them, he said he called himself a glorified tram driver hehe
mike
wow that photo is great cant believe how much it has changed the lines to the right are even closed there and that was 1950 i went today in 2007 through the old tunnels it was a great experience
yeah they where like an overspil carraige sidings for when the ones on the left where full up, like grand national or football specials etc, they went in the 60s
you cant see on this but to the extreme right in a cutting, another line ran from huskisson, which is by sandhills station to walton, the tunnel is in the far right corner
mike
yes thats the tunnel i walked through it leads to the old walton on the hill station there is also another tunnel next to it that leads to a dead end also theres another tunnel under it that leads to the old spellow station, kirkdale is boss i wish i could find a photo of when them to branches had platforms
Central Station - 1890 - Liverpool Records Office
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Originally Posted by oritelad
the cheshire lines railway tunnels from kirkdale to walton on the hill?
is that what you mean there, that there is tunnels alongside it?
what that was, is that the tunnels were built in case the line ever had to be widened from 2 tracks to 4, but they never removed the cutting in front of them,
you can see that all along the bridges and tunnels on the the cheshire lines railway bike path to halewood, there wernt any platforms at kirkdale for this line,
kirkdale station on the lancashire and yorkshire railway, the one that is still used, only ever had the 2 platforms on the slow lines, same as it is now, the lines next to that which got lifted in the late 1960s early 70s where what was called the fast lines, from walton junction to liverpool exchange, trains that where not going to stop at kirkdale used these lines, because the electric trains stopped at every station,
ive got some more pics of the tunnels in the steam days somewhere, ill dig em out
cheers
mike
http://www.hows.org.uk/personal/rail/incline/lls.htm
Liverpool Lime St
From 1836 until 1870 trains into Liverpool Lime St were hauled by a stationary steam engine and shunted by horses. There was another cable hauled railway from Crown St station to Edge Hill.
The locomotives would run as far as Edge Hill cutting where they would be detached with loaded coaches being cable hauled through a short tunnel by winding engines at the passenger terminus at Crown Street; returning coaches ran down to Edge Hill by gravity. Goods traffic was handled at the Wapping Goods station close to Liverpool Docks. This was reached by an impressive 2030 metre tunnel from Edge Hill cutting; wagons were cable hauled up from Wapping and descended by gravity
The Crown Street passenger terminus soon proved inadequate due to its size and distance from the city centre and it was closed on 15th August 1836 on the opening of a new terminus at Lime Street, much closer to the city centre. This was reached by a new double track 1006 metre tunnel; although the new line was less steep than Wapping it was still cable hauled. A new engine house was built at Edge Hill, in what is now the station building.
Steam for this engine was supplied from a boiler in the old Edge Hill cutting through a long tunnel excavated through the sandstone on the north side of the cutting; this was known as the 'steam tunnel'; the boiler was housed in a chamber cut into the cutting wall. Goods and coal traffic continued to be handled at the old Crown Street station and a second wider tunnel into Crown Street was driven in about 1846. In the 1860's in order to facilitate a new track alignment the Edge Hill cutting w! as widened forcing the demolition of the Moorish Arch.
From 1870, the line into Lime Street was locomotive hauled and a huge chimney with a powered fan was built on Smithdown Lane, near Edge Hill. This was only used for a few years although the chimney lasted until just before WW2. Smoke in the tunnel was always a problem so after a couple of accidents and the need for increased traffic, the two track tunnel was opened up into a deep four track cutting with seven short lengths of tunnel remaining to support various roads and houses. At Edge Hill a further tunnel opened in 1849, north of the Lime Street tunnel. This was another ambitious undertaking comprising two end on tunnels collectively known as Waterloo.
The Waterloo Tunnel at 862 metres is, in reality, the shorter of the two tunnels. Immediately to the west of it is the longer Victoria Tunnel at 2475 metres. The tunnels ran north west to Waterloo Goods Station and the harbour railway system and were, again, cable hauled from Edge Hill.
Cable haulage continued through the Waterloo Tunnel until 1895 when it went over to locomotive haulage and the line was extended to a new passenger station, Riverside, near the pier head, The Wapping Tunnel went over to locomotive haulage the following year. Waterloo Goods Station remained in use until 1963 while Crown Street goods terminal lasted a further five years, closing in 1968; the site was landscaped in 1980.
Dont know if anyone has seen this but here it is anyway:
Exchange Station today
Outside
http://www.militaryimages.net/imageh...lot/mg0160.jpg
Memorial
http://www.militaryimages.net/imageh...lot/mg0161.jpg
Inside
http://www.militaryimages.net/imageh...lot/mg0162.jpg
To the Rear, where the trains would have arrived.
http://www.militaryimages.net/imageh...lot/mg0163.jpg
wow! it looks real smart. :handclap: smashing photos.:)
http://i167.photobucket.com/albums/u...eetStation.jpg
Lime Street Station
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Originally Posted by marie
sorry to be one of them annoying anoraks, crown st closed in 1972
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mike
great hope you find them photos there just does seem to any pics of that bit of kirkdale station,Quote:
Originally Posted by mike delamar
thanks now i know why there are 2 tunnels next to eachother so they just built 2 incase they needed 4 lines but decided they didnt so thats why the 2nd tunnel was never complete and leads to a dead end?
so this branch did cross the cutting for the canada dock branch so did the bridge crossing it get removed and when?
thanks i understand how kirkdale station worked now it just seems confussing as there are so many branchs running through it i hope you find a photo of the old stair way that was knocked down which lead to that fast lane track i always thought it lead to the 2 tunnels in the corrner and the canada dock branch ya see
also i was thinking of visiting the site of spellow station do you or anyoneelse know how i would get to it of has anyone got resant pics of what state it is in now?
Oritelad
I don't think anything exists of Spellow Station now. All the station buildings have been cleared away, I don't even think the platforms are there either.
got a video here of a cab ride along the bootle branch, made in the late 80s, shows theres still some platform remains at spellow and walton and anfield at that time, think theyre just overgrown now
i think you can see from the entrys at the back of houses on romley st(providing theres no gates on the entry now)
if not could try the bottom of goodison road, or from city road bridge, youll be able to tell from there, dont think its that high to look over
mike
nice one m8 na they av them daft black gates on i aint tha sad yet to wait till the bin men come early in the morning lol i would love to see tha vid please can you take any screen capsions?Quote:
Originally Posted by mike delamar
From the Subterranean Britannica site on Disused Railway Stations:
http://www.subbrit.org.uk/sb-sites/s...ow/index.shtml
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Originally Posted by oritelad
yeah no probs,
only thing is just got this new windows vista and vlc media player which i use to screen capture dosent work with it just yet, and its on video not dvd, but ill try and take a pic of the telly and see if that works:)
if you ever want to try and get hold of a copy its called "choppers and hoppers"
mike
did a video clip of it instead
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yACLdKg9R1U
starts just before the old walton and anfield station, down to bootle junction, which is between bank hall and oriel road stations,
poor quality im afraid, just the camera in front of the telly
mike
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Originally Posted by oritelad
it you lucky day.. i live just behind arnots school.. as soon as i get chance i will{beave the rats} and get on the back wall and take you some pics....
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Originally Posted by mike delamar
that is top........ive just seen the back off my house......all ways wanted to know what it was like.
dose any one know if there is anothe line round the same place just underground. ?
that all your rubbish thats been thrown over? lol
errr, not deeper than that one to be honest, but there are others, nearest would be around kirkdale,
mike
wow that is a great video i saw loads i needed to see so the spellow station platforms are still there but the stairs have gone also the old tunnel to canada dock station was still there in the cutting at kirkdale thanks 4 that also LIVERLAD08 i hope you are able to take clear photos over ya back that would be boss i have been waiting for ages to find someone who lived near that spellow cutting thats so luckey
From my memory of using Kirkdale in the late 60s, the old stairwell led down to the booking office level and then onwards to the 2 platforms .Quote:
Originally Posted by oritelad
You could either travel on the diesels to Exchange or Kirkby/Wigan or the electrics to Exchange or Ormskirk the other 2 lines (FAST) had no platforms
I've just posted a 1928 Liverpool map on the forum , this shows many of the Old Stations such as Spellow Lane and many of the other branches
Regards
Rob
Did your boyfriend ever get any pics?:)Quote:
Originally Posted by floyd
there was a lot of litter on that track, but what a clip, cheers Mike
He tried with his camera phone but the quality was pap so he is going to take our digital down there next time. I haven't forgotten :unibrow:
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There you go. Taken today 30/08/2007
:PDT11:handclap:
An excellent way to introduce yourself to the site, many thanks. I've wondered about tht site for many many years.
If you lot want any more pictures of the railway then I can get them for you. Be aware that it can take months for me to get to a particular site to take photo's. We go where the computer tells us to go (via work orders). And we can't go on track for no reason. A lot of places don't have access during the day. But if I can I will. Let me know!
Brilliant brilliant photos!!! Thanks so muchQuote:
Originally Posted by babaconda
Any more info/pics anybody has of this station would be greatly appreciated.
I know it was featured in the Echo a few years back but my mum threw the paper out...typical!
Lookin' for info about Wavertree, I found this web site...
http://www.subbrit.org.uk/sb-sites/s...ee/index.shtml