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Thanks for the photos Philip, and the info. Amazing. I remember a visit in '87 where my friend and I were walking around this area at night (why, I'm not sure) and there were some bonfires going in the square (or plaza, or whatever you call it), and it felt like the end of the world. The big empty paved spaces in these bullrings really make it feel so alien. I will have to track down your books, Ged, the subject matter is something that interests me quite a bit.
Thanks Nancy. Your pics are great, saw them all only a few months ago. This is the pic I was trying to upload earlier.
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Oh sorry, that's alright Kev. This pic was supplied to me by Ron Formby of the Scottie Press who has given permission to me to use in my book (though I have yet to) so it's his copyright.
Kent Gardens was always pretty grim. I remember some graffiti below one of the higher windows... 'T REX' in white paint. It was visible from Park Lane for years.
Try Chicago. Not quite the same in style but in function, yes. When I was there the painters had to wear bullet-proof vests in the "projects". One was painting the windows outside on the 5th floor and someone from the windows opposite shot him for fun.Quote:
Originally Posted by nancy o.
The squares had large air raid shelters in them during WW2 and left there for decades after. They were very thick brick walls and 18" thick reinforced concrete flat roofs. After the war they were used as storage. I used to run on the roofs and jump from shelter to shelter.Quote:
These two pictures were actually taken in April 1989. I'm assuming these were demolished? They looked not long for the world in these shots.
http://static.flickr.com/46/121521966_f52723ea11.jpg
http://static.flickr.com/19/120947992_065868db01.jpg
One in Kings Gardens took a direct hit and many people were killed.
Opposite Kent Gardens was where Fawcett Preston was. They made the gun that fired the first shot in the US Civil War. The North and the South used their cannons. The CCS Alabama, built at Lairds in Birkenhead, was sunk off Cherburg by USS Kersarge using Fawcett Preson cannons.
http://www.csnavy.org/weapons/cannons.htm
Also a direct hit on the air raid shelter in Blackstock Gardens kiling many local residents and even a passing tram load of commuters who took shelter there (see Scottie press site)
I have a blitz photo featuring bombed out premises across the road from Myrtle Gardens too.
I don't agree that lots of these blocks couldn't have been saved and made energy efficient. Roads became more important than keeping communities together and when you think of the petitions of Gerard, Fontenoy, Lawrence, King Gardens to name but a few to stave off demolition and the raping of some of these areas, it only goes to show that they were revered in the 70s and only a deliberate council policy to run them down in the next decade tolled their death knoll.
Even worse is that some of these were demolished only for the land to be left deserted as in Chaucer House, The four squares, Birkett Street. Given that city centre high rise seems to be back in vogue and the refurbishment of the Bullring and part of Myrtle Gardens, again, to name but a few, more should have been done to keep these iconic structures.
It was cheaper to raze them and start afresh. They could never reach modern insulation standards and now insulation has to be 1 foot thick in the loft. These structure would have spiralled the poor who lived in them into fuel poverty - energy has risen approx 30% in the past few years.Quote:
Originally Posted by Ged
I recall, Caryl, Warwick and Brunswick Gardens virtually ran into each other. All Concrete and no gardens to be seen. Caryl Gardens had art deco trimmings. Caryl Gardens was OK to live in, some of my friends lived there. Very tidy and clean. No problems.
They were cheap emergency homes to get people out of the courts, which were built by slave traders after slavery was banned. And also a means of getting people employed in the depression - government led construction projects. They served their purpose - an interim measure. I for one will not mourn their passing. Of course the odd one has been kept to remind us all what they were like.
A new space age foil type insulation which is mm thick but holds the same qualities as inches thick insulation was used in the Gt. Richmond Street flats, now called St. Anne Apartment. Furthermore I know a young professional who lives in one and visited a number of times early last year (winter time)and it seemed alright to me and does to him. Together with central heating (remembering that the 1950s flats that followed are still well occupied with similar insulations regs) and bearing in mind there are many older houses still in mass occupation with residents battling to keep them so, I don't think this is a good excuse or in fact the reason why they were razed.
Blocks currently exist in Tuebrook, Club Moor, Wavertree, Toxteth, Old Swan, Vauxhall and China Town as well as the few recently mentioned. With the inner courts tidied up as in the Bullring situation, I and many more believe they captured a communinty spirit that has gone forever resulting in a great loss to the city. I only have to look at the attendances at the screening of 'Gardens of Stone' to realise this. Many of the older generations harked back to when they could stand chatting on the landing for ages and not having to wait hours or days before they see their next door neighbour and some of these who were put into houses with gardens just couldn't manage them.
I agree times, building regs and expectations have moved on though and maybe we can tell our kids they've never had it so good but does it do any good for some?
This is a model I made of the Gerard Gardens development, together with Gerard Crescent and accompanying blocks which is shown whenever there is a Gardens of Stone screening.
Radiant barriers. A sham., They have now been taken off the approved list and building inspectors will no loger approve them.Quote:
Originally Posted by Ged
Two wrongs don't make a right. The thermal qualities of mainly solid walled flats are dire.Quote:
Furthermore I know a young professional who lives in one and visited a number of times early last year (winter time)and it seemed alright to me and does to him. Together with central heating (remembering that the 1950s flats that followed are still well occupied with similar insulations regs)
The UK has the oldest housing stock in the western world. This came about because of the poor planning laws and 0.66% of the population owning 70% of the land. See http://www.saveliverpooldocks.so.uk Go to the land article in the menu.Quote:
and bearing in mind there are many older houses still in mass occupation with residents battling to keep them so, I don't think this is a good excuse or in fact the reason why they were razed.
This old housing stock has meant UK home emit far more CO2 than Germany, France, etc. Also with poorly insulated homes the poor always suffer because of fuel poverty. Cold and damp homes amount to many health problems too.
Look up the post on this forum about the Welsh Streets and how one side of the coin was not reported - the Welsh streets were being used as a political tool. Most want out - demolition.
Community spirit? Some were hell holes. I lived near them. Flats never created community spirit worth talking about.Quote:
Blocks currently exist in Tuebrook, Club Moor, Wavertree, Toxteth, Old Swan, Vauxhall and China Town as well as the few recently mentioned. With the inner courts tidied up as in the Bullring situation, I and many more believe they captured a communinty spirit that has gone forever resulting in a great loss to the city.
Nostaliga. That all that is. Those flats had little community spirit at all. The terraced streets had more.Quote:
I only have to look at the attendances at the screening of 'Gardens of Stone' to realise this. Many of the older generations harked back to when they could stand chatting on the landing for ages and not having to wait hours or days before they see their next door neighbour and some of these who were put into houses with gardens just couldn't manage them.
Some people will always want to remain in the past. I pity them.Quote:
I agree times, building regs and expectations have moved on though and maybe we can tell our kids they've never had it so good but does it do any good for some?
Everyone to their own eh waterways, but having lived in them, played in and grew up in them and since spoken to people who didn't want to move from them, hence the petitions and the likes of the Eldonians demanding the community be kept intact, I beg to differ that's all.
We will have to agree to disagree. As to keeping the community together, other flats have been demolished the people moved to adjacent new homes with proper modern insulation, sense of space and all the rest. If its the community they are want to keep intact the case for keeping these enviromentally poor structures is poor indeed. Few few of them were visually attractive either.Quote:
Originally Posted by Ged
The flats/shops in St Oswald Street, Old Swan also appeared in the film 'The 51st State' before they were demolished. You can see them in the 4th and 6th photos here: http://www.liverpoolpictorial.co.uk/...irst/index.htmQuote:
Originally Posted by ayjaykay
Further to some earlier comments on this thread about building regulations, I happened to mention this site, and in particular this thread to a couple of building mates of mine last night. It appears there is some misinformation.
One of them worked on the adaption of Portland Gardens to houses and some of the block to sheltered accommodation. Current building regulations including heat retention and damp prevention have to be adhered to by law. The other one is actually working on a building right now that is using the new thin lined thermal foil and has invited me to photograph it in use before it is hidden if I want.
To say these tenements were going from slums to slums is also incorrect. See the 1938 Corporation/Gas Works film 'Homes for workers' to see that this new type of housing with hot and cold running water, indoor toilets (which some people in the 1970s were not even afforded) and electricity as well as gas were far in advance of what many many people were experiencing. The fact that there were verandas, internal coutyards for children to play away from the street and simple things like laundry hanging facilities were much more luxurious than what had gone before.
Previous to this Dr. Duncan had condemned the insanitary properties, many of them windowless cellar poperties with up to 10 persons per room as true hell holes which caused typhus and cholera amongst other things. Life expectancy had trebled by the time these tenements were well into habitation.
The jewel in Sir Lancelot Keay's crown was Gerard Gardens, hence the statue of himself above one of the entrances by Herbert Tyson Smith. Having lived in both streets and tenements I feel able to give testimony that the community spirit built inside these, although probably a sign of the times amongst anything else, was a true reflection of what it was like living in them. Charabanc trips would be arranged, mammoth football matches between rival squares and games such as kick the can and alallio within the confined of the square and the bonfire nights were legendary, not like trying to find the nearest oller as in the streets kids - see the interviews in the film Gardens of Stone. It is also true that this type of living caused a close knit community and in particular News years eve parties whereby you would go along the landing from door to door were a yearly delight.
There is no doubt that at the end of their lifespan, the councils plan was to let them become run down so that they could put them out of their misery but we've also seen how this can be done with houses too (The Boswell and Boot estates spring to mind) We cannot demolish houses or flats on the basis of thinking that the thermal qualities are not upgradeable otherwise we would lose the Victorian, Edwardian and Georgian splendours of the city. Think of Dave's photograph of Canning Street - let's demolished them? How about the fantastic buildings mentioned on the other thread that we've lost that were built of solid walls.
I would suggest that it is the characterless sea of new red brick houses with paper thin walls thrown up in six weeks that are a blight on the landscape, though I do concede that this is obviously 'progress'.
It's interesting to cite a friend of mine who worked at the Giro, full of people who live in Southport and Sefton. When my friend was asked where he was from and said Gerard Gardens, these people took a step back in fright as though he was the devil incarnate. It transpired that the perception of this square, only ever viewed from the Ribble bus was as a load of ruffians. We know differently of course and now it is laughed about.
See this post. Radiant barrier = multifoil, the thin layer foil youn are on about. TRADA, a private testing agency approved them in the UK, despite "never" having pased hot box test. Many are considering suing TRADA. The are suppsed to have a 25mm air gap in front of the foil. Few have it on installation. Even if they do it doesn't work. You may as well fit cooking foil.Quote:
Originally Posted by Ged
http://groups.google.co.uk/group/alt...e9f04bba04e5dc
They are banned when used by themselves. There are a con with makers being prosecuted in the USA and the UK. Show the post to your mates. The way the stupid UK building laws work, if you got PP for radiant barriers before they were banned then you can fit them. Duh! I know.
What does that mean?Quote:
To say these tenements were going from slums to slums is also incorrect.
Yep, they took them out of the courts and gave them the "internal" mod-cons of the time. But no gardens just bare tarmac or concrete. Done on the cheap, as to build proper garden suburbs costs a lot more.Quote:
See the 1938 Corporation/Gas Works film 'Homes for workers' to see that this new type of housing with hot and cold running water, indoor toilets (which some people in the 1970s were not even afforded) and electricity as well as gas were far in advance of what many many people were experiencing.
I remember going into Illchester Gardens, or Square, in Birkenhead (rough as hell - you never took a vehicle in there). Some old Irish fella on the ground floor had a donkey inside. I rang the council.
In the 1930s, the joke about the people in the gardens was that they put the coal in the bath.
You couldn't get much worse than the courts with 5 families sharing one toilet.Quote:
The fact that there were verandas, internal coutyards for children to play away from the street and simple things like laundry hanging facilities were much more luxurious than what had gone before.
The above is highly subjective. The gardens were a clear visual blight. Appalling looking things. The new houses with their gardens and flowers are quite nice indeed and vast improvement on the hell holes that the gardens became.Quote:
I would suggest that it is the characterless sea of new red brick houses with paper thin walls thrown up in six weeks that are a blight on the landscape, though I do concede that this is obviously 'progress'.
Some of the people in them were a bit on the rough side to say the least.Quote:
It's interesting to cite a friend of mine who worked at the Giro, full of people who live in Southport and Sefton. When my friend was asked where he was from and said Gerard Gardens, these people took a step back in fright as though he was the devil incarnate. It transpired that the perception of this square, only ever viewed from the Ribble bus was as a load of ruffians. We know differently of course and now it is laughed about.
We must go forwards without the burden of nostalgia. Decisions must be made with the brain, the hearts will follow on wherever we go.
Ha ha - I like the donkey bit.
There were coal holes as you know so no need to put it in the bath.
Bin chutes too - all mod cons eh.
To think what came after them wasn't a great improvement. High rise with dodgy blow central heating and the cladding fell off the walls. Think of the piggeries - now they were hell holes and not as many ex residents look back on them in fondness. A novelty to view the city from above but as soon as the lifts broke.....
How about the Radcliffe Estate in Everton or the Netherley flats on Brittage Brow - both lasting only a decade. Current estates such as the Easby in Kirkdale and the Grizedale off Robson Street - current hell hole mazes where even emergency vehicles can't get in.
To say some of the people were on the rough side though, well many early on would have been the old slums people who were still pretty much still coming out of the barefoot street urchin era. There's rough people living in these 'gardened' houses right now, probably go home to it after dealing drugs on the street but i'm possibly generalising as much there as you seem to do
Hurst Gardens that you mentioned were very ordinary compared to some, the lifts btw were installed in certain blocks meeting the requirements in 1950 and worked for not much more than a decade.
So the tale went. The people in Garston said the same about those who went to Speke - envious I think.Quote:
Originally Posted by Ged
Yep. And they filled up very quickly and stunk on the lower floors.Quote:
Bin chutes too - all mod cons eh.
What came after was the same but a different colour.Quote:
To think what came after them wasn't a great improvement. High rise with dodgy blow central heating
Warm air heating is great, it is just that the British didn't do it well. It is the norm in the USA.
In one or two, yes. Most, no.Quote:
and the cladding fell off the walls.
The high rises were poorly planned and the wrong people put in. No security and no concierge as the French and Germans, etc have.Quote:
Think of the piggeries - now they were hell holes and not as many ex residents look back on them in fondness. A novelty to view the city from above but as soon as the lifts broke.....
There were, and still are, some brilliant high rises in Liverpool. Many were needlessly demolished. Private companies could have done something good with them. The Piggeries is the worse of the bunch, however people forget the best.
Poorly planned. No security. There was no need to build Netherley flats as there were fields all around them to spead onto - oh that green belt again, that was supposed to impove our lives and never.Quote:
How about the Radcliffe Estate in Everton or the Netherley flats on Brittage Brow - both lasting only a decade. Current estates such as the Easby in Kirkdale and the Grizedale off Robson Street - current hell hole mazes where even emergency vehicles can't get in.
Some of the early residents of the "gardens" could not adapt to the mod-cons. Many still never used the baths, washing themselves down standing in the bathroom.Quote:
To say some of the people were on the rough side though, well many early on would have been the old slums people who were still pretty much still coming out of the barefoot street urchin era. There's rough people living in these 'gardened' houses right now, probably go home to it after dealing drugs on the street but i'm possibly generalising as much there as you seem to do
Few had lifts. Dingle House had lifts. I think over 5 floors and lifts were fitted. They were the early "gardens" with the iron railings instead of brick walls. Hurst Gardens looked good from Edge Lane.Quote:
Hurst Gardens that you mentioned were very ordinary compared to some, the lifts btw were installed in certain blocks meeting the requirements in 1950 and worked for not much more than a decade.
BTW, I was an engineer with Britsh Gas when a kid and went into every one these gardens, so I can speak from some authority. I recall being called out at 8:00pm to Kent Garden as the gas main had failed and we worked to first make safe and then get a section of the flats in operation. The same happend same with Kings Gardens too. In Gerrard Gardens they used to knock on the doors selling knocked off shirts. I bought one once.
As the 70s came these gardens became hell holes. We could not take the vehicles inside some of them. The police and Gas Corp arranged a sting In Myrtle House to get the thieves who broke into vans. The idiot cops never got them. Myrtle House was a hole.
I recall visting a house opposite the Piggeries. I locked up the van and walked a few yards and knocked on the door. The lady opened the door and screamed "watch the van they will get into it in a few minutes". They said we will look after it. Two of her teenage kids stood beside the van while I did something in the house - they were scared I would leave if the van was attacked, which I would have. They were pissed off as delivery and service people would not go to their houses. A Clockwork Orange got it right.
Quote Waterways: A Clockwork Orange got it right.
We don't often agree but you got it dead right there. :Colorz_Grey_PDT_16:
Yeah but that's people for you, not so much the flats - you can't blame bricks and mortar for that. There's still kids nowadays in this well to do era who will ask to mind your car on matchdays, will ask trick or treat - give the wrong answer to either and kapput. They'll rob from your van at traffic lights now - that didn't happen back then - though you could possible blame the black borstal breakout plimsols with shiny front as not being good getaway gear.
I knew lads who lived in 'posh' houses on Queens Drive and Page Moss who'd rob you as much as look at you back then so it wasn't just the gardens.
There was pride in those places in the 60s and 70s. The stairwell and landings would be whitewashed along the edge for forthcoming weddings or priest visits or May Queen processions. There'd be bunting hanging out for special occassions and always a good spread on first Holy Communion day.
Like I said earlier, it was the councils who always had one eye on one road scheme or another that let these become run down. As for the high rise, I agree that private Companies have done some good with the existing ones off Netherfield Road and the difference between the old and renovated one (Bispham and Adlington House) on Lace Street shows what can be done. Still though, you don't I don't hear people moaning too much about the running costs of these and i'm from around there and know lots of the families.
You can. They created an impersonal inhuman environment.Quote:
Originally Posted by Ged
Because they never thought of it.Quote:
There's still kids nowadays in this well to do era who will ask to mind your car on matchdays, will ask trick or treat - give the wrong answer to either and kapput. They'll rob from your van at traffic lights now - that didn't happen back then
Moreso in the gardens. Once one deteriortated, they created that attitude.Quote:
I knew lads who lived in 'posh' houses on Queens Drive and Page Moss who'd rob you as much as look at you back then so it wasn't just the gardens.
Once the 70s came that all went down - when the first generation of resident went. Few hung washing off the balconies it was that bad in some.Quote:
There was pride in those places in the 60s and 70s. The stairwell and landings would be whitewashed along the edge for forthcoming weddings or priest visits or May Queen processions. There'd be bunting hanging out for special occassions and always a good spread on first Holy Communion day.
With flats, if a few bad families were there they could drag the whole block, or gardens, down quickly. The decent people move and quickly too, and the whole place spirals downwards quite quickly until you end up with knobheads. The council then use them to hosue the problem families as they are all in one place only annoying each other. A sink estate.
You are focusing on one time of these gardens, the 1940s and 50s - the good times.
No, i'm talking about the 60s and the 70s. I don't know if you were beaten up in one of these squares or something but you sure have a hang up about them that countless people who I knew then and who I know now who were sorry to see them go haven't got.
By the way - around 150 houses were only ever built in the immediate area to take anything between 200 - 400 families, certainly true of Gerard Gardens - one of the biggest developments, the rest were cast aside to far and wide flung places, the elderly of these people who missed their neighbours, never the same again. They were art deco monuments - Castle like some of them and well revered.
Took Sloyan Doyle 2 years to knock Gerard Gardens down
They were all around me: Caryl, Warwick, Brunswick, King and Sussex Gardens. Then Dingle and South Hill Houses and Dingle House on Dingle Lane.Quote:
Originally Posted by Ged
I worked in them. They all blended into one big "garden".
They served their use to get sanitary conditions for people in courts. Then the time came to get rid as the sell-by date approached.
You are about the only one I know who had a good word for them.
How about the original poster, the 70 people who attended the reunion dinner at the Via Veneto recently (turned twice as many away), Paul Sudbury, creator of Gardens of Stone, the people who have purchased 1,500, 970 and 112 of my volumes I,II & III of In a city living (to date), the people who were queing up to be interviewed for the end of the above film, the 100+ ex residents who attended the FACT screenings, the posters on the Scottie Press site, Margaret Donnelly author of My Parish about Fontenoy Gdns and countless who have stopped me and talked to me about them.
I'm not saying they were the be all and end all but to call them impersonal and creators of hoodlums is a slur on all those very mostly good people who lived in them. I know from experience that people were on the waiting list for years for these as we tried and eventually succeeded to move from a 2 to a 3 bedroomed flat.
Anyway, there are those for and those against and we'll not change each others minds. Have a nice weekend.
Sorry, should say 1000+ ex residents. (If they'd hated them, there'd be no nostalgia. )
An interesting discussion between Waterways and Ged! However, I must say there was a strong sense of community within the tenement blocks. Everybody knew everybody, and that was a powerful commodity when you were a kid. The neighbours knew your mother, and as a result there was no back chat and a lot of respect (unlike the anonomous hoodie sketch that we have today). From someone who lived within the tenements I can see how 'outsiders' could feel threatend as they entered the 'colluseum' of the tenements. I lived in the one in Christian Street, so there could be a perception of Christians to the lions!
They were full of characters, and proud people who had limited income. Are there any characters in the street where you live? Unfortunately, pride has now been swapped for competition.
My mam moved from the tenements to a brand new lovely semi detatched with a front and back garden, she hated it. She longed for the days of standing on the landing watching the kids play in the square (cheap entertainment). There was always someone walking past your house who would stop and have a chat. Surprising, she felt more isolated in the semi than she ever did living in the flats.
City Centre tenement blocks (Gerard Gardens etc) were built on the site of Gerard Street, which was an area heavily populated by Italian immigrants at the end of the 19th Century.
There was a recent renuion meeting which brought together a lot of the old Italian community from Liverpool's Little Italy. The night included music from Una Voce operatic society and the Wirral Mandoliers. There was also screenings of Shadow Boxer, the story of local boxer Dom Volante made by Andy Smith. My film Gardens of Stone who focuses upon City Centre living in the 20th Century was also shown.
I created a short introduction to the night which can be viewed by clicking on the YouTube link. It feature the voices of Nunzia Bertali (Italian Consulate), Ray Baccino (resident of Gerard Crescent) and Ronnie Volnate (nephew of boxer Dom).
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xU2Ysd5CLCI
Further details on the Liitle Italy area of Liverpool can be viewed by visiting the Scottie Press website
http://www.scottiepress.org/projects/litaly.htm
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Originally Posted by The Gardens
my mum lived in king gardens whilst she was growing up, and remembers it fondly now.
She is 47, and looks back on that time with great warmth.:)
I was on a cruise in October of this year aboard the Holland America ship Statendam between Vancouver and Auckland and had the good fortune of meeting the great granddaughter of the Fusco's ice founder. Her name is Maria Fusco and she now lives in Lisbon, Portugal. I still correspond with her.Quote:
Originally Posted by The Gardens
There are "Italians" in my own family; Santangeli, Acarri and Famiglio. My aunt Vera (Sant) lived at 2 Breck Place and was probably my favourite aunt.
During the research for my film Gardens of Stone, I came across a documentary entitled Homes For Workers. It was made the the Gas Board in 1938 and is introduced by Lanceloy Keay, Liverpool Chief Architect. It details many of Keay's developments, including the jewel in his crown 'Gerard Gardens'. It details the 'luxuries' introduced into 1930's residents; hot & cold running water, gas & electric power, indoor toilets and bathrooms (some homeowners in the city still had outside toilets in the 1960's!).
I have uploaded excerpts from the film to Youtube, click the link to view;
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CEg8QK23NTk
The tenements were given bad press at the end of their lives, but one could only wonder at the joy the first residents to the new blocks must have felt. My mam and dad moved into the flat in 1960, leaving a condemed house in Queen Anne Place and loved it. The flats have been described as ugly, but I would consider Gerard Gardens, with its art deco styling, to be a work of beauty (its in the eye of the beholder!). The Karl Marx Hof in Vienna, on which it was based, is still standing, and stands as a testimony as to how other countries have more respect for their heritage they we do.
:) ^^Brilliant^^ :)
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Originally Posted by The Gardens
Just watched the YouTube clip...absolutely brilliant! Forwarded it to my mum, who grew up in King Gardens.
Tried to view the trailer for your film on your homepage, but it seems to have expired..? Would love to see it :)
Upper Stanhope Street/Chesterfield Street.
Built 1938 with 67 flats.
Demolished in 1994.
1986 (2 photos stuck together).
Thanks for the comments, if you wish to see a trailer for Gardens of Stone click the link below;
http://www.scottiepress.org/gallery/stjoes.htm
scroll down to View Gardens of Stone film, this is an old trailer, the film was updated of the screening at FACT. The full film, which runs for 1hr 18 mins, is due to be screened at Lee Jones League of Welldoers in the New Year. I will post the details when confirmed.
that's brilliant!
thanks very much.
would love to see the film at the showing, keep us informed!:)
Cracking vid. I've got the whole one on the Liverpool Record Office Project P.O.O.L CD that came out about 5 years ago. Been very tempted to post it in the past (excuse the pun), but was wary of copyright issues.
http://www.liverpoolpictorial.co.uk/projectpool.jpg
what is on the video dave? :)
Past Liverpool, Soft Girl:unibrow:Quote:
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No way to speak to a lady, Dave.Quote:
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