29 wiped off the face of the earth eh ;)
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29 wiped off the face of the earth eh ;)
Must have been empty at that time??
See the Holme's and Cadwallader's still living in the street. Also "Marsden" - not the same one though...
Vincent Burke was on Radio Merseyside today in the second part of his feature on the Wallace Case. Ged, he mentioned that post (I think you posted) which you said the DVD doesn't mention Parry. He said the reason that he didn't mention Parry was because most writers now don't recognise him as guilty of the murder. He also happened to mention the posting I made where I claimed he might have made some mistakes because of his age :)
Hiya Mark. Yes, i'm in touch with Billy Butler over general stuff so pinged him the relevant parts in this thread. I think his Parry excuse is a bit lame because he should get a mention whether or not as he was clearly part of the scene at the time and you can't just rule out the bloodied glove statement. Writers and the likes of himself should give the full story and leave it to the listeners to decide if Parry had any involvement in it at all don't you think. I left the age bit of yours in and added your address too ;)
Billy will have had a chuckle over that - did you go all red? :)
I agree Ged - I don't think Parry should be discounted because of any evidence that might seem to point to his innocence. He was a suspect, so should be included in any analysis of the case.Quote:
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Thanks a bundle! :shock: Yes, I went red alright! :disgust:Quote:
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Apparently Vincent Burke has a new book coming out in June. I don't know whether it is just about the Wallace Case though or other cases with it.
The Daily Post during the week ran a centre pages Liverpool Crimes special because of the new gangs book just out. The Maybrick and Wallace cases included of course. You can still get it from Old Hall street.
Thanks Ged. I'll have a look for that.
This was also on the Echo site:
http://www.liverpoolecho.co.uk/liver...0252-20728447/
Sorry Mark, I think it was the Echo and not the post, it's just that someone sent me the middle section only and I had it in my head it was the post. That's the very article but there's pics of Wallace and the Johnsons.
I think I may have used the library when I was living in Newsham Drive in 1982 I think I may been near Wolverton Street as well JohnQuote:
Originally Posted by lindylou
so i cant use that now then?Pity I was looking forward to listening to it Yours John
Wolverton Street 1970:
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On the evening of 20th January 1931, James Allison Wildman walked through this alleyway, claiming that the clock of the Holy Trinity Church was showing 6.35.
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Home of 13 year old Elsie Wright. On the 20th January, she claimed she heard the bells of Belmont Road Institute ringing for 6.30. About ten minutes later she met Alan Close...
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The shop of William Wildman (James Allison Wildman's uncle). Al claimed he started his newspaper round from the shop at 6.20pm.
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Great pics and info Mark. :handclap:
Thanks Ged :PDT11
This appeared recently on Tom Slemen's forum. It is a post by Tom himself...
"I was lucky enough to be given permission by Merseyside Police to view the files on the case. I was shown the mortuary photographs of Julia Wallace, including close-ups of the back of her head to show the damage done by the weapon.
I'm currently writing a book on the case which makes a mockery of Goodman's book (which is irritatingly interlaced with quotes from Alice in Wonderland). It wasn't Parry.
So many people got in touch with me when I broadcast a radio dramatisation for BBC Radio Merseyside a few years ago. I have so many new leads and scraps of previously unheard of information to put in the book.
Incidentally, I not only proof-read The Murder of Julia Wallace by James Murphy, I urged my publisher to print it, even though Murphy believed Wallace did it."
Not sure how it will make a mockery out of Goodman's volume...
We shall await the revelations :)
Doesn't Tom and his sidekick think the Johnson's did the evil deed as has the word of a nurse about a deathbed confession etc etc...?
Given that the late Jonathan Goodman has a well-earned sizeable reputation as a crime writer, I also doubt that Mr. Slemen's book could make a mockery out of Goodman's book on the Wallace case. :rolleyes:Quote:
Originally Posted by Mark R
Mark, aren't you working on a book on the case? Where do you stand with it?
Chris
In his study of course :)
I can see where you stand, Ged. :PDT_Aliboronz_24:Quote:
Originally Posted by Ged
I agree Chris...Quote:
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I want to access the remaining files at the National Archive in Kew before I commit anything 100%...I've been writing bits here and there but want to see the other files first.
Yes Ged - I think Slemen is putting all his belief in information he has received from others...I don't think it can give us a total solution to the case - after all, it is only hearsay.
Anfield Road Bridewell
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Stone Markings:
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Holy Trinity Church (13 May 2008)
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Wallace claimed he boarded the No.26 tram at this corner. Sheil Road is facing.
(13 May 2008)
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Really good photos Mark. Especially Holy Trinity, which I've always found hard to photograph - because to get a full view you have to stand back by the Cabbage Hall side and usually the traffic spoils the image. Standing in Richmond Park is too cramped to get a full view. Also, I've found that the light is never quite right - always seems to be in shade and the church doesn't show up well.
Yours is the best photo I've seen of Holy Trin. :handclap:
Thanks lindylou - you flatter me :PDT11 You're correct regarding photographing the church - it is a bit of a pain. I have to be honest, I'm not totally happy with the pic of it - the light seems a bit bright :)Quote:
Originally Posted by lindylou
Great photies and I agree a crackin' one of the church, even with the Richmond Park street sign in view.
Thanks Ged :PDT11
I recently found out some new information regarding Julia. In his book The Murder of Julia Wallace James Murphy claims that "nothing is known for certain of her [Julia's] life between 1875 and 1910" (Murphy, pp.39).
I've found out that in 1881 Julia was living in Wandsworth, Surrey. She was an assistant governess (teacher). She was living with a family named Smith. I know it is a common surname but my hunch is that it was relatives, as Julia's mother's maiden name was Smith. I am trying to find out more with regard to Julia & WHW's earlier lives. Keep you posted when I do. I hope to include extensive information on them for the book, but it could be some time yet:)
Good research Mark - looking forward to the book. And updating my walk!
Julie
Thanks Julie!
Well done Mark.
I was just thinking, (that's dangerous) - the chess club in the basement, North John st. In the late 1970s I used to go to a Beatles related shop owned by Jim and Liz Hughes called the Magical History Store, I'm sure this must've been the same premises. Have you tried ringing the buzzer to get in and get some pics?
Hi Mark what age is she stated as in 1881?
cheers
Steve
Thanks Ged. Yes I think I remember it (vaguely) being a music related shop. I actually walked past the building (now an apartments) a few months ago and the door was open - I never had my camera with me but I had a look down the stairs. I might try and get in there.Quote:
Originally Posted by Ged
Hi SteveQuote:
Originally Posted by steve miller
She is stated as being 19 years of age in 1881. She was actually born on 28th April 1861 so the census might have been before April.
I added these to the Find A Grave site if anyone is interested:
http://www.findagrave.com/cgi-bin/fg...GRid=28263568&
http://www.findagrave.com/cgi-bin/fg...GRid=28263702&
Regards
Thanks for that Mark
What I don't understand is why someone would reduce their age by 18 years.
Usually people do this by a few years or even a round figure of 10 but 18?
cheers
Steve
Hi SteveQuote:
Originally Posted by steve miller
Yes I know what you mean. I actually have a copy of Julia's birth certificate. I think there are some that have hinted that Wallace found out her actual age and that was a motive. I honestly believe that Wallace would have known her actual age before he married her.
She seems to be back in Yorkshire in 1891, claiming 28 as her age.
In 1901 she's in Hornsey (Middlesex) "living on own means", and for the first time she knocks a significant chunk off her age. She claims thirty, when in fact she's almost 40. [I haven't seen the original census enumeration, so I assume 30 isn't a mistranscription of 39]
Hi Rod
The problem with relying on a census as regards age and place of birth is that it wasn't necessarily the subject person giving the information.
Even if they are listed as head of household it still may have been someone else giving the info.
However even if someone else gave the info 10 years in error is a lot.:shock:
cheers
Steve