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Soundly, but gently slapped on wrist. I am not having my best weekend for inter-gender relationships.
Mart what year is the directory on your website?
there's a James Howard at 67 Prescot Rd & another one? at 99 Prescot Rd
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its my fault for not wording it properly....I've been trying to connect this family for a while now & its doing my head in
its not only the place names, its wondering if there is any connection & if not why are there so many Howards living so close together since at least 1841
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1851: Ref No. RG 10/3850, Folio Nos. 132-133
Prescot Street. Nearby street Grey Horse.
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As this is the blind leading the far sighted I will stop at this...
Marriage: 2 Dec 1891 St Mary, West Derby, Lancashire, England
William Henry Metcalfe - 33 Groom Bachelor of Swan Road, Old Swan
Jane Howard - 26 Spinster of Swan Road, Old Swan
Groom's Father: Thomas Metcalfe, Mason
Bride's Father: John Howard, Farmer
Witness: Thomas Metcalfe; Ellen Jones
Married by Banns by: R. Cuffe
Register: Marriages 1883 - 1903, Page 101, Entry 202
Source: LDS Film 1546071
The Church of St Mary the Virgin
(West Derby Chapel), West Derby
From...
http://www.lan-opc.org.uk/Liverpool/...1883-1903.html
thank you for taking the trouble for looking for me Oudeis...& everyone else too its much appreciated
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thanks Mart
I found this in Lost villages of Liverpool pt 3 by Derek Whale
Another set of well known cottages thereabouts ,until their demolition before the last war,were Grey horse cottages.These stood with an old pub called the Grey horse,on whose gable end was mounted a carved horses head.And in in one of these cottages live a lively lass named "Big Lill" - a huge ,fearless but good-hearted soul who really enjoyed her ale.On the occasions when Lill imbibed too much & became fighting drunk ,it took the combined efforts of six policemen to hoist her into the black Maria !
Squeezed in somewhere between Knotty Ash & Old Swan was another tiny hamlet called "Pump Fold" which was known to postmen ,if few other people ,in its time.A handful of dwellings there were called Littledale's cottages.
Big Lill sounds like one of my lot haha!!!
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Squeezed between Knotty Ash and Old Swan is Grey Horse. I did wonder what was put on a savoury butty. I'll stick to the Jam ones though myself.
Come on Spike, you must know it then?Squeezed in somewhere between Knotty Ash & Old Swan was another tiny hamlet called "Pump Fold" which was known to postmen ,if few other people ,in its time.A handful of dwellings there were called Littledale's cottages.
Littledale cottages were stil there in 1906 - see map on the site.
They stood about where the masionettes are now between Prescot Rd and Warmington Rd.
Mart
I have a book called Knotty Ash, Old Swan and West Derby by G. Radley.
On page 26 it states "the stationmaster's house stands on the corner of Warmington Road. On the opposite corner, stood a wooden cafe alongside a group of old cottages. Next to the cottages stood the Bay Horse. They Bay Horse seems to have been demolished before 1930."
1906 map courtesy of old-maps.co.uk.
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1891 census:
The Grey Horse Inn, 22, Prescot Rd RG12/3001/60a. Ignore this one, though.
Grey Horse (beerhouse, Elizabeth Charnock), 161, Prescot Rd* RG12/3001/36a.
The Charnocks appear on a few Census' at Prescot Rd as beerhouse/beersellers.
Charnock Cottages are marked on an early map. On later maps the area of Spring Place and Littledale's Cottages.
*this was on the section of Prescot Rd between Old Swan and Knotty Ash.
thanks again everyone for you time & effort ...just one question is Bay Horse another hamlet or just a pub/inn?
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I think the Bay horse was an inn/pub, not a hamlet, but only my guess
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