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    Default Grey Horse Knotty Ash?

    Does anyone know where Grey Horse hamlet was?
    I'm looking for my Howard family who lived in & around Prescot Rd on various census

    there seems to be a cluster of Howard's living there too & I'm trying to connect them with mine

    one family (definetly mine) lived at Lord Nelson (Court) does anyone know where that was ?

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    another lived Prescot Rd in the village or hamlet of Grey horse(1871) I've looked at maps but can't find Grey horse...I can find Black Horse or Grey Hound but not GreyHorse could it be by the brewery somewhere

    can anyone help???
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    In the meantime (unless this is you?)...

    http://nmfhssouthport.myfreeforum.or...t__t_1243.html

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    There's a Grey Horse mentioned here:
    http://yourarchives.nationalarchives...reet_Index_G-K

    Lord Neloson "Cottages" are, I believe behind the Lord nelson Pub.

    There was a The Bay Horse Hotel, which was situated between Knotty Ash Station and Eaton Rd.

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    There is a Lord Nelson pub now on Prescot Road and across in Sprinfield Park, Nelson's Monument/obelisk. There is a Greyhound pub, but not grey horse? But - there is a black horse pub too of course. This on the 1908 Edwardian map.
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    Quote Originally Posted by hmtmaj View Post
    There's a Gey Horse mentioned here:
    http://yourarchives.nationalarchives...reet_Index_G-K

    Lord Neloson "Cottages" are, I believe behind the Lord nelson Pub.

    There was a The Bay Horse Hotel, which was situated between Knotty Ash Station and Eaton Rd.

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    Hi Mart,
    The Lord Nelson cottages where next to the Lord Nelson pub on East Prescot Rd and ran the full length to Rudyard Rd just before Sainsbury,s , the cottages to the rear of the Lord Nelson are St Annes Cottages, all housed Joseph Jones,s brewery workers, there was another pub The Turks Head which stood on the now site of Windsors shoeshop.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Oudeis View Post
    In the meantime (unless this is you?)...

    http://nmfhssouthport.myfreeforum.or...t__t_1243.html
    thank you Oudeis,I haven't come across any Southport connection yet but I've bookmarked the page

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    Quote Originally Posted by hmtmaj View Post
    There's a Gey Horse mentioned here:
    http://yourarchives.nationalarchives...reet_Index_G-K

    Lord Neloson "Cottages" are, I believe behind the Lord nelson Pub.

    There was a The Bay Horse Hotel, which was situated between Knotty Ash Station and Eaton Rd.

    Mart
    thanks Mart I saw the photo of the Bayhorse on your site

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ged View Post
    There is a Lord Nelson pub now on Prescot Road and across in Sprinfield Park, Nelson's Monument/obelisk. There is a Greyhound pub, but not grey horse? But - there is a black horse pub too of course. This on the 1908 Edwardian map.
    thanks Ged,I've looked on maps & in books but can't find any mention of greyhorse apart from the census

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    Quote Originally Posted by dot View Post
    Hi Mart,
    The Lord Nelson cottages where next to the Lord Nelson pub on East Prescot Rd and ran the full length to Rudyard Rd just before Sainsbury,s , the cottages to the rear of the Lord Nelson are St Annes Cottages, all housed Joseph Jones,s brewery workers, there was another pub The Turks Head which stood on the now site of Windsors shoeshop.
    thanks Dot,I'm at Alder Hey tomorrow so I might have a nose around...I did see a very old street sign for St Anne's cottage last time I looked but didn't have my camera

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    this is the description for the enumeration district on 1881 census
    Prescot Rd south side from Chapmans Corner to Thomas Lane,including Swan Row Littledales House & lodges, all the houses about Grey Horse,Lord Nelson & Nelson Yard ,Park View to Hewitts house ,houses of gateway & the back
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    Quote Originally Posted by hmtmaj View Post

    Lord Nelson "Cottages" are, I believe behind the Lord nelson Pub.



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    The cottages are still there. Go through the entry that is called ' LITTLE BONGS ' and the cottages are there. They run behind the Lord Nelson pub.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Spike View Post
    The cottages are still there. Go through the entry that is called ' LITTLE BONGS ' and the cottages are there. They run behind the Lord Nelson pub.
    thanks Spike I will look tomorrow if I can
    I wasn't sure if it was a court because in 1871 its called Lord Nelson Court...just called Lord Nelson in 1881
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    Quote Originally Posted by robbo176 View Post
    this is the description for the enumeration district on 1881 census
    Prescot Rd south side from Chapmans Corner to Thomas Lane,including Swan Row Littledales House & lodges, all the houses about Grey Horse,Lord Nelson & Nelson Yard ,Park View to Hewitts house ,houses of gateway & the back
    Thomas Littledale was Lord Mayor in 1826. He is noted as being part of St John's Church on Thomas Lane. So Littledales House could be his? Puts it in this area though.

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    Hi Spike,
    The Bongs are at the back of the cottages on East Prescot Rd opposite Windsors shoe shop, St Annes cottages are at the rear of the Lord Nelson pub in Rudyard Close, there is an old weather worn sign to the side of no 1 St Annes Cotts built 1882 not sure of the date for the Bongs

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    Your right Dot.

    You can get to the cottages at the side of Sainsbury's next to the Lord Nelson Pub.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Spike View Post
    Thomas Littledale was Lord Mayor in 1826. He is noted as being part of St John's Church on Thomas Lane. So Littledales House could be his? Puts it in this area though.
    thanks for the info Spike.....I wonder if Greyhorse was a Hamlet why isn't it on any maps...Black Horse Hamlet is!!!
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    Littledale is off Thomas Lane near to the church.

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    The excerpt you quoted earlier does not mention Grey Horse Hamlet. I suppose there might have been a farm stead named after an Anglo Saxon, it then became an inn then a pub, but the name stuck?

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    Looked on a 1906 map but not much is listed by name aaargh.

    Funny enough there are Littledales Cottages listed further up towards Queens Drive Old Swan.

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