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    PhilipG
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    "Buildings of Liverpool" had so many



    mistakes.
    Treat yourself to "Liverpool" by Joseph Sharples (2004, Yale University Press).
    It's only £9.99 and is one of the "Pevsner Architectural

    Guides".
    BTW, 6 sides to the Stanley clock tower.

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    Quote Originally Posted by PhilipG View Post
    "Buildings of Liverpool" had so many mistakes.
    Treat yourself to "Liverpool" by Joseph Sharples (2004, Yale

    University Press).
    It's only £9.99 and is one of the "Pevsner Architectural Guides".
    BTW, 6 sides to the Stanley clock tower.
    Thanks

    Phil.
    One of their worst mistakes was including the same chapter twice!
    Apart from that, what are their other mistakes? I've missed

    them.

    Cheers,
    Dave

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    Dave,

    you can still get there from the south as far as I know.

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    Quote Originally Posted by snappel View Post
    Dave, you can

    still get there from the south as far as I know.
    No probs from the south, but I used to drive straight into the docks and park up next to the

    Sandon Half Tide Docks where I have a few mates who look after the MV Loach. It was just a quick jump across the dock railings and a spin around to get to

    the other side of the gates. They've recently put up a metal sheet to prevent you.

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    Quote Originally Posted by scouserdave View Post
    Thanks Phil.
    One of their worst mistakes was including the same chapter twice!
    Apart from

    that, what are their other mistakes? I've missed them.

    Cheers,
    Dave
    Oh God, off the top of my head???
    I can't find my copy (and

    I haven't read it in years), but I made lots of notes.
    What annoyed me so much was it said about so many buildings: "The building is Victorian" when

    other sources knew the exact dates.
    It said the Crane Building was Victorian (It was built 1913-15). It was also designed by W Aubrey Thomas (he of the

    Royal Liver Building) which they didn't know.
    Check the Lord Street Arcade - does it say that was another W Aubrey Thomas building, and that it opened in

    1901?
    So many other buildings where the architects (and dates) have always been known weren't credited with the architects (or dates).
    OK, perhaps

    they aren't all mistakes, but it still shows that the book wasn't researched very well.
    The classic mistake was showing a drawing of the 1930s meeting

    room which is next to the Ancient Chapel, and identifying it as the Ancient Chapel!
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    Quote Originally Posted by PhilipG View Post
    Oh God, off the top of my head???
    I can't find my copy (and I haven't read it in years), but I made lots of notes.
    What annoyed

    me so much was it said about so many buildings: "The building is Victorian" when other sources knew the exact dates.
    The classic mistake was showing a

    drawing of the 1930s meeting room which is next to the Ancient Chapel, and identifying it as the Ancient Chapel!
    There's a drawing of

    Toxteth Unitarian Chapel in the book which matches up with a photo of "Ancient Chapel of Toxteth" at

    http://www.toxteth.net/places/liverp...chapel%201.htm

    There's no mention whatsoever in the book, describing it as

    "the Ancient Chapel" It would help if you have the book at hand like I have, rather than recalling from your memory.

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    Quote Originally Posted by scouserdave View Post
    There's a drawing of Toxteth Unitarian Chapel in the book which

    matches up with a photo of "Ancient Chapel of Toxteth" at http://www.toxteth.net/places/liverp...chapel%201.htm



    There's no mention whatsoever in the book, describing it as "the Ancient Chapel" It would help if you have the book at hand like I have, rather than

    recalling from your memory.
    Thank you for using a "Disgust" smilie.
    I don't know why you have to be so objectionable.
    It it

    obvious that you don't know the difference between the Meeting Room which was built in the 1930s, and the Ancient Chapel which is next door (and anything uo

    to 300 years older).
    The photo you link to shows the Meeting Room on the left, and the Ancient Chapel to the right.
    The drawing in "Buildings of

    Liverpool" (which I don't have to hand, but remember very well), shows the meeting room.
    Which is what I said in the first place.

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    Quote Originally Posted by PhilipG View Post
    Thank you for using a "Disgust" smilie.
    I don't know why you have to be so objectionable.
    It it obvious that you

    don't know the difference between the Meeting Room which was built in the 1930s, and the Ancient Chapel which is next door (and anything uo to 300 years

    older).
    The photo you link to shows the Meeting Room on the left, and the Ancient Chapel to the right.
    The drawing in "Buildings of Liverpool" (which I

    don't have to hand, but remember very well), shows the meeting room.
    Which is what I said in the first place.
    Phil,
    you're asking me to

    engage in a debate about a photo you've seen on a website and an image in a book which you don't have to hand. Get back to me when you find the book. I

    won't hold my breath

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    Quote Originally Posted by scouserdave View Post
    There's a drawing of Toxteth Unitarian Chapel in the book which matches up with a photo of

    "Ancient Chapel of Toxteth" at http://www.toxteth.net/places/liverp...chapel%201.htm

    There's no mention whatsoever

    in the book, describing it as "the Ancient Chapel" It would help if you have the book at hand like I have, rather than recalling from your

    memory.
    Dave.
    I'm referring to this photo that you use to reinforce your mistaken belief.
    What's with

    all these "disgust" smilies.
    This site isn't supposed to be about battles.
    Or is it that Dave always has to be right?

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    Quote Originally Posted by PhilipG View Post
    Dave.
    I'm referring to this photo that you use to reinforce your mistaken belief.
    What's with all these

    "disgust" smilies.
    This site isn't supposed to be about battles.
    Or is it that Dave always has to be right?
    The only "battles" are in your

    mind Phil and because of that, I'll make a hasty retreat. Apologies for any upset.

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    Quote Originally Posted by PhilipG View Post
    BTW, 6 sides to the Stanley clock tower.
    Yep. It's a six

    sided eight day clock. I'll ask my Da about it tomorrow as he used to work on the Nothern Dock's in the 50's.

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    Quote Originally Posted by A.D.Williams View Post
    Yep. It's a six sided eight day

    clock. I'll ask my Da about it tomorrow as he used to work on the Nothern Dock's in the 50's.
    Eh - 8 day clock? Please explain I don't get

    it?

    Fascinating building though.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Motorhemp View Post
    Eh - 8 day clock? Please explain I don't get it?

    Fascinating building

    though.
    It needed winding up every eight days I suppose?


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    Quote Originally Posted by A.D.Williams View Post
    It needed winding up every eight days I suppose?



    LOL!

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    Quote Originally Posted by scouserdave View Post
    LOL!
    me dumb (hangs

    head in shame)

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