A friend sent me this, I thought you'd like it. Nice pic. of Liverpool Castle.
A friend sent me this, I thought you'd like it. Nice pic. of Liverpool Castle.
I just found some info on this.....
SourceWest Derby was one of the eight hundreds of Lancashire, fifteen townships came under its durisdiction and its boundaries reached as far west as Moss St, Islington. Over the centuries it was in turn inhabited by the Danes, Anglo-Saxons, and until 13thC. stood in a forest 11 miles long/2 miles wide. It has had a Saxon fort, a Norman Fort and now a small walled garden marks the site. King John transferred the Wapentake court from West Derby, when he granted the Charter to L,pool in 1207. (the forerunner of the County Court today). Ecclesiastically West Derby was part of Walton Parish for many years, but became independent in 1848. The present parish church built 1853/4 (designed by Gilbert G Scott, replaced the ancient chapel of St Mary the Virgin.
In the old days West Derby covered a lot more area than it does today.
There is an old boundary marker at the top of Townsend lane which says, 'Township of West Derby' ... and yet Townsend lane is now classed as being in Anfield.
... bit confusing really ... if you turn left at the top of Townsend lane and into Lower Breck rd - that comes under the Tuebrook boundary
I don't know if this link
has ever been posted before.
http://www.btinternet.com/~m.royden/...tle/castle.htm
i wish
they would re-print half of the old Liverpool books, it seems silly that we all are so interested and we can't get hold of them! grrrrrr!!
These are from an 1869 book I saw in Ormskirk Library.
It was too big (& fragile) to photocopy, but fine to take photos of.
I think the shadow is my
fat tummy!
I haven't forgotten Reynolds.
I've got some better pics, & will post them in "Some Liverpool Cinemas" tomorrow (Sunday).
I've also put together a history of the building.
Of course, West Derby Hundred, in which both
the motte and bailey castle at West Derby and later Liverpool Castle were located, covered the whole of present-day Liverpool and surrounding towns and was
mentioned in the Domesday Book. See http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/West_Derby_(hundred)
I was surprised to learn that a walled garden now
marks the site of West Derby Castle and I must check it out next time I am in the 'Pool. Anyone know exactly what road the walled garden is
on?
Chris
Christopher T. George
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Editor, Loch Raven Review
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Thanks, Philip G and bobbymac for
posting these pics. The colour pic posted by bobby looks to me as if it might have been something got up at the time of the 1957 anniversary of the founding
of Liverpool, or perhaps even the 1907 celebration, although I should think the later one is more probable.
Philip, the pic of Liverpool Castle you
posted looks somewhat of a generic picture of a castle and I believe one of the problems that faces anyone writing about the castle is that there was no good
illustration of the castle done, so the modern drawings are conjectural - the best guess of the historian or investigator. The castle is seen in a number of
views of the town in the later 17th century but that was when it was falling apart and before it was demolished and swept away and St. Peter's Church and
later the Victoria Monument were built on the site.
Chris
Christopher T. George
Editor, Ripperologist
Editor, Loch Raven Review
http://christophertgeorge.blogspot.com/
Chris on Flickr and on MySpace
Bobby
The middle pic that you posted is of the Tower at the bottom of Water Street and shouldn't be confused
with Liverpool Castle. You probably know that but I wanted to note it in case anyone was confused. This lasted longer than the castle and was built by Lord
Stanley (later Earls of Derby) at the beginning of the 15th century. Since it stood longer than the castle and was on the waterfront there are better views
of it than of the castle. It was in its last years used as a prison to house French and American prisoners. The view you posted accords with the way the
Tower is shown in a book I have, Richard Brooke's Liverpool in the Last Quarter of the Eighteenth Century, published in 1853.
Chris
Christopher T. George
Editor, Ripperologist
Editor, Loch Raven Review
http://christophertgeorge.blogspot.com/
Chris on Flickr and on MySpace
There is a replica of the ruins of
Liverpool castle at Rivington Pike near Bolton. That is where Liverrpool once got its water, but out grew it very quickly and turned to
Wales.
http://www.kroma.co.uk/liverpool-castle-ruins.asp
http://lanternimages.lancashire.gov.uk/index.php?a=showall&s=gallery&key=AYTozOntpOjA7c
zoxOiIxIjtpOjE7czoxOiI2IjtpOjI7czoxOiI3Ijt9&pg=136
http://www.roystpierre.com/
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Enough paintings and drawing were done to know what it was
like.
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