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    a row of shops in Seaforth village looks set to come down after a devastating fire. I went by today to get a photo before it all fell down. amazingly no-one was hurt.
    the block is mostly empty so there's a fair chance they'll take most of it down in the long run.





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    Pulling the whole row down is criminal. All they have to do is build back up the collapsed shop.
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    Default 13 March 2008.

    Before the fire.

    It's all worth saving.
    That's why I took this photo.

    But one shop was already in a very poor condition.
    The second one here.

    Last edited by PhilipG; 04-30-2008 at 11:02 AM.

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    When I worked for Clarksons on Scotty in the 50's the store on the left was one of their branch shops. The store on the right was Harry Ormeshers photography shop.
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    maybe its going to be a new Burny Inn

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    Was that the Clarksons under Fontenoy Gardens Shytalk?
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    No Ged. it was a department store on the flatiron at Cazneau St. and Scotty. I've got a pic of it somewhere I'll look. I drove their furniture van '58-'59.
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    Luckily, I was just passing...

    No, not really, it's from the Echo website.





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    Ah, I know the one you mean Shytalk. I've got a few pics of that too.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ged View Post
    Ah, I know the one you mean Shytalk. I've got a few pics of that too.
    I looked on your site and couldn't find them, would you post them here please.
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    Yes I will do but they're at home so i'll do that tonight.
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    Not your Clarksons I don't think but here's a couple I posted on the images of Liverpool thread ages ago.










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    Quote Originally Posted by shoney View Post
    maybe its going to be a new Burny Inn


    the whole block is deemed 'unsafe' at the moment the police have the road completely blocked around the shops front and back. even pedestrians not allowed past.
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    That's the one Ged. taken from the Cazneau street side.
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    Is it, well i've got another somewhere at home from the scottie side, i'll have a look for it. I'm pretty sure you can see down Scottie on one side and down Cazneau st on the other because of the flat iron position.
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    The building at the point of the flat iron was Breens the tobacco dealers, I think it was Virgil St. that separated them.
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    Yes Shytalk, It was Virgil Street and over the Road was Greggs the Coopers that made the oak barrels for Bents Brewery in the good old days.

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    Photo: The Scotland Road side of the building.
    Last edited by Barry Clarkson; 05-08-2008 at 03:33 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Barry Clarkson View Post
    Photo: The Scotland Road side of the building.
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    Yes, the building was my family's. Built, I think in 1932 by Williams. Compulsory purchased by council for construction of the new Mersey Tunnel.
    Bombed on three sides during the May Blitz 1941
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    Barry Clakson.
    Amazing, small world eh.
    I worked for the store when your dad Ken was the managing director. I drove the furniture van and did small deliveries in your dads Vauxhall Velox.
    When I wasn't out I worked on the furniture floor for Mr. Nelson.
    I left in 1959 to start my own business and did reasonably well. I now live in the USA, I emigrated in 1982.
    What are you doing these days, feel free to message me if you want to.
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    Shoney I have messaged you, but just for others and to tidy things up: I live outside Fremantle most winters and in summer St Helens, where I married a lass from the same town. I am lucky, I have family in both OZ and UK. Healthwise? lucky too. Heart attack and stroke, still pretty good though. Must have been all those bacon butties from the Round Counter down Scottie! and sausage rolls from Deans.
    Regarding Seaforth. Sadly, I do'nt think it will be economically viable to restore this block. The ground is unstable and the closeness of the road used to cause shudder from heavy vehicles.
    I used to think that a decent secure car park close to the station and prferably linked, might encourage more use of the railway with perhaps a few new convenience shops incorporated.
    I occasionally return for old times sake and remminice with Johno ( Johno's Workwear) and war veteran "Mike the Bike"
    ps. Has any one got a pic of the last rag-and-bone man who used to trot passed the shops. He went up the vale on his horse and cart?

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    this would be one of the best pics i've seen on here, very detailed day of life, reminds me of trumpton but thats not why i think it's good, there is so much happening

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    I know, nearly 40 vehicles in that little scene. Housing, retail, industry.....the lot.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ged View Post
    I know, nearly 40 vehicles in that little scene. Housing, retail, industry.....the lot.
    van bottom right gets me, mothers ? pride or what, another yard to the left and i'd know

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    Yes, it's gotta be hasn't it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ged View Post
    Yes, it's gotta be hasn't it.
    Great photo Ged. Put a lump in my throat. Guess it's been taken from Breen's roof. Time about 4pm, Johnsons and Bread vans heading back to Bootle?
    I wonder where the three military looking vans down Limekiln Lane are going. Can't remember the name of the garage. Howards? I think that's their coach opposite.
    They used to be booked for Clarksons annual shop picnic.

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