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    Hi,
    I'm trying to find out any info on Acacia House on Everton Brow or Shaw Street (possibly on the corner). My grandfather (Tom Jones) ran a 'dancing academy' there probably in 1920s or 1930s and I would love to hear from anyone who remembers it or has any photos or maps with it on.

    All I have is a copy of his headed business letterhead and a photo of someone in a doorway.

    I live in Staffordshire now, but visited the area this weekend to seek out any ghosts - it was strange seeing it for the first time.

    thanks

    Mike Jones


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    Hello MikeyJ and welcome.

    This is what the 1936 street directory says:
    Acacia Dancing Academy Co.,
    Dancing Rooms,
    (William Tipping Jones, manager),
    71 Everton Brow.
    (It was on the corner of Netherfield Road South).

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    Thanks for tracking this down - a great help!
    Do you know where I might find an on line map from this period?
    Do you know if the council has records of demolition - I was wondering if the house was damaged in the war or later in the clearances in the 60s. It might even still be there - I didn't do down Everton Brow at the weekend, because I thought it must have been on the Shaw Street corner.

    thanks
    Mike

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    Did that building become the 'unique' doss house or was that a few doors further along to the South?
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    sounds like the unique to me from the description Ged.

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    Mikey,hope these few piccies are of use to you..upload them if you want mate..
    Ged,the Unique building is 119 Shaw Street so Philip's research would suggest 71 Everton Brow was Indeed on the North side of the Top of Everton Brow.


    Everton Brow looking south along Shaw St.





    The block on the left is 119 Shaw Street,Everton Brow running down toward Richmond Row leading to St Anne St,
    To the right of the top of Everton Brow is the begining of Netherfield Road.
    71 Everton Brow would have been on the grass wasteland..Formerly the Friary boys school.















    Rrrrrrrrrrr ehhhhhhhhhhhh.......not more !!




    The "Brow" cornershop is no 55/57 Everton Brow..
    71 Everton Brow would have been right in front of me Mikey.





    This is the middle of Everton Brow looking up toward Shaw St/Netherfield Road..
    My informants tell me that This side of Coffeys pub was once Everton Crescent and Everton Brow started after Coffeys.


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    Great pics and info Gerard. Yes, that was the unique on your 1st photie. I have an old map showing Everton Crescent and indeed the row of buildings on that side were set back in a curve. The opposite side, I remember the old terraces where my doctors were in the late 1960s - Dr Connolly. Later when he died I went to Dr Reid who was based in the 50s flats in Watmough st facing coffy's pubs (when the Henderson's had it) Dr Reid later moved to Greaty by the 7 stars pub.
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    my mistake Gerard, nice pictures. So they,re going to build on that grassy bank after all these years, at least twentyfive it,s been vacant. And the forty steps are getting done up too. Used to stand on them whilst watching the orange lodge back in the 60s

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    Thanks Ged,chippie..it must be 25 years chippie since the old school was knocked down,
    I wish they would remove them bollards that are at the top of the steps so you can drive up Browside/Village St up to Heyworth St.
    I've found a snidey way though the Park though opposite the Tuggy..
    Dont have to go all around the world now to get up by Margy baths to see my uncle.

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    I,ve still got an uncle lives in that area Gerard, Aubrey Street what it was called years ago.

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    thanks for all the info - I'm having guilty feelings now, seeing how close the family lived to the lockup and having heard that the family had a toffee shop in the 1920's. I'll have to get a check up and see if I have blue blood after all!

    Well done to the Reds tonight

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    Quote Originally Posted by MikeyJ View Post
    thanks for all the info - I'm having guilty feelings now, seeing how close the family lived to the lockup and having heard that the family had a toffee shop in the 1920's. I'll have to get a check up and see if I have blue blood after all!

    Well done to the Reds tonight

    Does that mean you like the photo's then Mikey.

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    I worked at 119 shaw street a few years back. What's the history of this place then? Seems to have closed down, but still be well kept and to have lights on inside. Weird

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    Quote Originally Posted by johnmed View Post
    I worked at 119 shaw street a few years back. What's the history of this place then? Seems to have closed down, but still be well kept and to have lights on inside. Weird
    Hello John,119 is still open,I saw a few chaps in there on Computers,I never looked for a name plate but I'll check next time I pass there.



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    it looks tinned up gerard

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    Quote Originally Posted by johnmed View Post
    it looks tinned up gerard

    The windows to the left of the door John are where I saw the people on Computers..Ang On half an hour or so..I go up the brow for my Sunday papers..
    Photo mission coming on me thinks...Any excuse..

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    how exciting.... ha ha

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    Quote Originally Posted by johnmed View Post
    how exciting.... ha ha
    I know John...I've been thinking about changing my news agents for a while now.
    There yer go John..still open.


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    I used to sit there...

    Was it refurbed recently? Sure I saw metal sheet against the windows a while back...

    GREAT PHOTO BTW. Fresh of the press too!

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    WOW..................

    How quick was that

    Always service with a smile

    Jacky

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    Quote Originally Posted by johnmed View Post
    I used to sit there...

    Was it refurbed recently? Sure I saw metal sheet against the windows a while back...

    GREAT PHOTO BTW. Fresh of the press too!
    My people on the ground tell me John the people in there work for the council homeless department who are waiting to move back to their own premises which are being re-furbished.
    119 will be opening again as a homeless single mens refuge in about 8/10 weeks for about 12 months and thats that.
    Nobody knows whats happening to the building after that.
    I have put my people on red alert and you will be updated when I am given fresh informacio...Lol...
    And thank you Sir.

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    Hello Mike Jones

    I was born and brought up in Acacia House from 1935 to 1942-3 when it was owened and run by Tom and Gladys Jones I would love to see any photos.

    joan




    Quote Originally Posted by MikeyJ View Post
    Hi,
    I'm trying to find out any info on Acacia House on Everton Brow or Shaw Street (possibly on the corner). My grandfather (Tom Jones) ran a 'dancing academy' there probably in 1920s or 1930s and I would love to hear from anyone who remembers it or has any photos or maps with it on.

    All I have is a copy of his headed business letterhead and a photo of someone in a doorway.

    I live in Staffordshire now, but visited the area this weekend to seek out any ghosts - it was strange seeing it for the first time.,,,,

    thanks

    Mike Jones

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    hi mike wonder if you read my message I lived in acacia house at the time you were mentioning. Waiting to hear more from you Joan.

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    I am in the wrong house or didnt it used to be the old "Petrus" hostel for men? Is this the right building?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Partsky View Post
    I am in the wrong house or didnt it used to be the old "Petrus" hostel for men? Is this the right building?
    Thats the one, its currently the city council's homeless centre for single men.

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    I'm confused now (again)

    Hadn't it been established earlier that Acacia House was on the corner of Everton Brow and Netherfield Road South and was now a patch of grass.

    The Petrus/Unique, which is photographed by Gerard earlier in the thread is still there though, a little further along Netherfield Road South's continuation which is Shaw Street, almost facing Whitley Gardens.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ged View Post
    I'm confused now (again)

    Hadn't it been established earlier that Acacia House was on the corner of Everton Brow and Netherfield Road South and was now a patch of grass.

    The Petrus/Unique, which is photographed by Gerard earlier in the thread is still there though, a little further along Netherfield Road South's continuation which is Shaw Street, almost facing Whitley Gardens.
    Dunno mate only skimmed through the thread, I am sure though that the building Gerard photographed is the ex Petrus hostel and is now a council hostel.

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    Yes it is, I remember it as the 'Unique' hostel where the homeless men went, However, Acacia House was on the corner and is now demolished.
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    Quote Originally Posted by joan bradshaw View Post
    hi mike wonder if you read my message I lived in acacia house at the time you were mentioning. Waiting to hear more from you Joan.
    Joan - Sorry not to have replied - had lost my login. Could you contact me directly on shirburn@googlemail.com - would love to hear more about memories of Acacia House
    Mike

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ged View Post
    Great pics and info Gerard. Yes, that was the unique on your 1st photie. I have an old map showing Everton Crescent and indeed the row of buildings on that side were set back in a curve. The opposite side, I remember the old terraces where my doctors were in the late 1960s - Dr Connolly. Later when he died I went to Dr Reid who was based in the 50s flats in Watmough st facing coffy's pubs (when the Henderson's had it) Dr Reid later moved to Greaty by the 7 stars pub.
    dr. connollys daughter , dr renton still continues the practice which has now been moved to the end of shaw st. in the orginal N.S.P.C.C building , end of shaw st and top of islington

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