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    Default The murder of Madge Kirby

    This is a really tragic one, happening 99 years ago and the killer was never caught. On 6th January 1908 7 year old Madge Kirby was playing with her friend in Farnworth St when a man asked her to go with him for some sweets. She was never seen alive again. Her body was found on 21st August in Great Newton St, having clearly been removed from its hiding place in a nearby derelict property. Within two weeks of being laid to rest, Madge's father died of a broken heart, having lost his wife just 3 months before Madge disappeared. There'smore information on the following websites:-


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    Re: your first link. Does anyone even know who Keith Andrews is ? Or anything about his background or what his 'credentials' are ? Is that the piece where he claims that he'll "leave no stone unturned until he catches the killer of Madge Kirby" ? IIRC, there's a Wiki page about him (self-penned ?) which is unfathomable bilge.

    The Kirby case is beyond terrible.

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    Hi Steve and AP

    First, Steve, thanks for sharing information on this tragic crime with us. Such murders of young children are always sad and unfortunately not confined to that era but still happen today as the Soham case demonstrated.

    AP, Keith Andrews is the Merseyside criminologist who is working with Tom Slemen on such matters as the mass grave in Old Swan and the candidacy of Colonel Claude Reignier Conder as Jack the Ripper. I know nothing more about him except what I have read in connection with Mr Slemen's involvement in those cases.

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    Yes, thanks for the thread and the links SteH. Hadn't heard of this one, very tragic and as in the Jamie Bulger case, it seems there were people who had seen what was going on and did nothing.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ChrisGeorge View Post
    AP, Keith Andrews is the Merseyside criminologist who is working with Tom Slemen on such matters as the mass grave in Old Swan and the candidacy of Colonel Claude Reignier Conder as Jack the Ripper.
    You know as much as I do about him then. I just looked up his Wiki article and it's even worse than last time I peeked at it. One thing stood out though. An utterly bizarre last paragraph: "He is currently writing a feature on a crime historian's past, and an in-depth article on a failed one-book 'pulp crime writer' who writes nothing but anonymous emails to famous people. Keith is also working with a television screenwriter on a script about the Cameo Murders, based on the landmark book by Barry Shortall." WTF ?

    And I see Slemmo's Wiki entry is currently being considered for complete deletion.

    Long live Laurel and Hardy I say...

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    Hello AP

    If you pull up the "History" for the page for Keith Andrews you get some interesting information posted by people who have questioned what is currently showing. For example, one recent comment, "Warning. This article reads rather like the plug for a book. Jonathan Goodman and others are hardly armchair criminologists. This is a highly coloured piece and should be re-edited. The theory on the Wallace case is interesting but not definitive."

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