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    Question Liverpool Zoo/ Zoological Parks

    Is it true that liverpool had a zoo? apparently its the sainsburys site by walton hospital.


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    Quote Originally Posted by miss st helens
    Is it true that liverpool had a zoo? apparently its the sainsburys site by walton hospital.
    i'll have a look - howie probly knows
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    See www.ljmu.ac.uk/bie/fossilmammal/zoohistory.htm

    Zoological gardens and menageries flourished in the Victorian and Edwardian eras. Liverpool itself had several, in Kensington, Mossley Hill, Earle Street (which later moved to Otterspool) and Lime Street. Another little known zoo was established at Lever Park, Rivington, by Lord Lever in 1908. It was principally for the health and education of the people of Bolton and housed animals in large paddocks. Kangaroos, zebras and lions are recorded as being present, but the only surviving remnant of the former inhabitants is a stuffed flamingo in Bolton Museum. Although it closed in 1925, the site plan is unknown - only a few fence posts indicate where some of the paddock fences ran, and a few rough patches of ground may indicate the site of the animal enclosures. Essentially, although less than 80 years have passed since it closed it has become an archaeological rather than an historical investigation.
    I'll ask Prof Alan Turner about the Sainsbury's site by Walton Hospital and let you know.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Howie
    See www.ljmu.ac.uk/bie/fossilmammal/zoohistory.htm



    I'll ask Prof Alan Turner about the Sainsbury's site by Walton hospital and let you know.
    Told ya - he's the man and we are not worthy

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    I just happen to work as an administrator in the School of Biological and Earth Sciences at Liverpool John Moores University.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Howie
    I just happen to work as an administrator in the School of Biological and Earth Sciences at Liverpool John Moores University.
    ah the main man, its just i bought a house on that ground and apparently there is a culvert so i wanted to check upon it and when i asked someone they mentioned the old zoo!

    I love looking at old pictures of liverpool cos you can see how they have changed and some have stayed the same, church street is one of my favourites, in macro they have photos mounted on the wall in the restaraunt area. they fascinate me!
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    Quote Originally Posted by miss st helens
    I love looking at old pictures of liverpool
    See the photographs of Liverpool from The Black & White Picture Place.

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    Hi Miss St H,

    Could this be what your'e thinking of?

    RICE LANE CITY FARM

    Comprising 224 acres of countryside, 11 of which are managed woodland.
    A variety of rare breed farm animals are kept, including farm breeds of pigs, red poll cattle, Ryeland award-winning sheep as well as various goats, ponies and poultry.
    Admission is free although donations are welcome. The farm also offers guided walks and talks, which must be booked in advance.
    This historic site is also the resting place of Robert Tressel, author of 'The Ragged Trousered Philanthropist', Edgar Allen Poe's illustrator James Carling and a number of pirates!

    Rice Lane City Farm
    No. 2 Lodge, Walton Park Cemetery
    Walton, Liverpool
    Merseyside
    L9 1AW
    Tel: 0151 530 1066

    Or alternatively, there used to be a kid's 'zoo' at the Walton Hall Avenue end of the estate (when it was a park). But again that had sheep, goats and the like. That was around fifty years ago!
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    During last years funding cuts protesters from various organisations (including a sheep from Rice Lane City Farm) marched thru' Liverpool from the horse statue in Church St. to a lobby outside the town hall.


    Rice Lane City Farm volunteers bring a sheep
    to their protest at Liverpool town hall - 2nd March 2005

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    Why can;t the biological sciences make a potion that can make me as big as a silver back gorilla then?

    Are they that good?

    Anyway only zoo I've been too was chester zoo and last time I went there was a lack of certain animals like Tigers and bears. Can understand though as alot are endangered and it feels wrong to keep them caged.

    Knowsley Safari park had a load of Tigers though last time I went and they were the only ones who had fences so they couldn't approach the cars!

    Max likes the cat species and the cat species like me too.

    Too bad I can't make them be my minions.
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    There's tigers and bears at Chester Zoo. They were obviously hiding from you Max.

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    Didn't see the bears but there was only like one Tiger.

    Some nut climbed over one of the Tiger fences, taunting the Tiger and the Tiger was running up to him too! Lucky for him theirs two fences to keep Tigers from actually being able to even touch you. Even if you want to taunt them.

    Could imagine the gruesomeness if the Tiger could of caught him though.

    Once went we went I was very young too remember but my mum was telling me how one of the Gorillas was making growling noises at my dad for reasons we don't know.

    Can;t find bears on their list of animals though.
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    Yeh, I was last there just before Xmas (bloody freezin' it was too). I only remember seein' one tiger but there was those spectacled bears (the ones with the whitish faces and black eyes). I like the bat house - if you stand still in the tunnel and make like a tree the bats land on your arms.

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    I was worried that one of the bats might fly on me.

    It was just that it was dark and I wouldn't be able to see it.
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    It is dark in there but the bats know exactly where you are using their 'echo location' so whilst they fly within inches of you (sometimes you feel the flapping of their wings as they pass so close) they won't accidently fly into you. As I said they will land on you if you stand perfectly still for a while with your arms outstretched.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Max
    Why can't the biological sciences make a potion that can make me as big as a silver back gorilla then?
    Dunno Max - I'm not a scientist. My qualifications are in Sociology and Public Administration.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Scousemouse
    Hi Miss St H,

    Could this be what your'e thinking of?

    RICE LANE CITY FARM

    Comprising 224 acres of countryside, 11 of which are managed woodland.
    A variety of rare breed farm animals are kept, including farm breeds of pigs, red poll cattle, Ryeland award-winning sheep as well as various goats, ponies and poultry.
    Admission is free although donations are welcome. The farm also offers guided walks and talks, which must be booked in advance.
    This historic site is also the resting place of Robert Tressel, author of 'The Ragged Trousered Philanthropist', Edgar Allen Poe's illustrator James Carling and a number of pirates!

    Rice Lane City Farm
    No. 2 Lodge, Walton Park Cemetery
    Walton, Liverpool
    Merseyside
    L9 1AW
    Tel: 0151 530 1066

    Or alternatively, there used to be a kid's 'zoo' at the Walton Hall Avenue end of the estate (when it was a park). But again that had sheep, goats and the like. That was around fifty years ago!
    no i know rice lane farm, this is directly ooposite walton hospital and had bigger animals, lions and tigers and bears oh my!
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    There was a zoo in Kensington on Butler Street.
    Butler Street school (now New Park) was built on that site in Victorian times.

    A relative of mine remembers when the gorilla escaped and had to be shot

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    Stumbled across this strange picture and caption in the depths of the BBC's website:


    This motorist found himself in trouble in his Hillman Minx. Help was at hand when Monica, the elephant at Liverpool Zoo, was drafted in to help.

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    Quote Originally Posted by miss st helens
    Is it true that liverpool had a zoo? apparently its the sainsburys site by walton hospital.
    Response from Dr Hannah O'Regan at LJMU:

    Hi Howie,

    I don't know of one, but that doesn't mean it wasn't there! The ones I know about were all in Wavertree/Kensington, the city centre and Aigburth way, nothing in the north. But who told you? and do they have any more info? like when it was meant to be there? Most of the info I have is up to the 1930s. I haven't done as much research into the Liverpool zoos as I'd like (in fact very little so far), but I haven't come across any mentions of a Walton zoo (yet).

    Hope that's of help, and any more info would be interesting!

    Hannah.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Howie
    See the photographs of Liverpool from The Black & White Picture Place.
    they are brilliant, i love the inside of the old sailors home, pure class, i always wanted to go in st georges hall and see the dungeons n stuff underground! they dont allow it now do they!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Howie
    Response from Dr Hannah O'Regan at LJMU:

    Hi Howie,

    I don't know of one, but that doesn't mean it wasn't there! The ones I know about were all in Wavertree/Kensington, the city centre and Aigburth way, nothing in the north. But who told you? and do they have any more info? like when it was meant to be there? Most of the info I have is up to the 1930s. I haven't done as much research into the Liverpool zoos as I'd like (in fact very little so far), but I haven't come across any mentions of a Walton zoo (yet).

    Hope that's of help, and any more info would be interesting!

    Hannah.
    hope someone wasnt pulling my chain now, but i was told probably victorian, will double check my source!!!!
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    I heard that there was a zoological gardens in Liverpool in Victorian times. It was up by Gregson's Well - I think it was on those gardens opposite it (can't remember the name) that you could walk through to get to Mill Road Hospital - at the end of West Derby Road, opposite the old Register Office, by the Grafton - you know where I mean. Never heard of one in Walton though.

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    there are still the gates for Liverpool Zoo next to the Plough pub Rice Lane,I think its a florest now

    Mandy

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    Quote Originally Posted by robbo176
    there are still the gates for Liverpool Zoo next to the Plough pub Rice Lane,I think its a florest now

    Mandy
    Pics of those would be great!
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    Quote Originally Posted by kev
    Pics of those would be great!
    yep thats it, between the sainsburys and the princess garden restaraunt, my boyfriend said it goes way back further than victorian, maybe even sixteen hundreds, not sure myself if it is that far back though! interestin to research though eh! cant get picks that far back though eh! maybe sketches?
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    Quote Originally Posted by sweetpatooti
    I heard that there was a zoological gardens in Liverpool in Victorian times. It was up by Gregson's Well - I think it was on those gardens opposite it (can't remember the name) that you could walk through to get to Mill Road Hospital - at the end of West Derby Road, opposite the old Register Office, by the Grafton - you know where I mean. Never heard of one in Walton though.
    I think that was Henglers circus there used to be a pub by the same name on Everton Rd
    the Gardens used to be the Necropolis Cemetery
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    Quote Originally Posted by kev
    Pics of those would be great!
    Heres a couple of pics





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    wow! thanks so much the little animals in the stone work....
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