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    Hello from sunny Wigan.
    This is my first posting and being from Wigan I want something for nowt.

    I'm researching a murder that was committed in 1863 at a coal mine called Bawkhouse colliery, Red Rock, Haigh which is a small Hamlet to the North of Wigan.

    Long story short, a group of poachers went to the mine to kill the nightshift boilerman, one of them hit him with a crowbar and then threw him into the furnace.
    One of the gang was hanged in public at Kirkdale Jail in 1866.

    I've looked on the maps and as far as I can see the former Kirkdale Jail was to the South of the railway station. It now looks like a park or something similar.

    The roads surrounding it are; North Dingle,Rumney Rd west and Garnett Ave.

    Am I looking in the right area?

    Thanks in advance.


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    You sure are. Sessions road takes its name from the sessions house that was there and there was a pub called the Sessions that was demolished a good few years ago. Here's a little thread on it

    http://www.yoliverpool.com/forum/sho...=kirkdale+gaol


    Liverpool records office has some info on it too. Note it was gaol back then.



    http://archive.liverpool.gov.uk/dser...irkdale%20gaol')




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    Default Kirkdale Gaol

    Quote Originally Posted by Wigginer View Post
    Hello from sunny Wigan.
    This is my first posting and being from Wigan I want something for nowt.

    I'm researching a murder that was committed in 1863 at a coal mine called Bawkhouse colliery, Red Rock, Haigh which is a small Hamlet to the North of Wigan.

    Long story short, a group of poachers went to the mine to kill the nightshift boilerman, one of them hit him with a crowbar and then threw him into the furnace.
    One of the gang was hanged in public at Kirkdale Jail in 1866.

    I've looked on the maps and as far as I can see the former Kirkdale Jail was to the South of the railway station. It now looks like a park or something similar.

    The roads surrounding it are; North Dingle,Rumney Rd west and Garnett Ave.

    Am I looking in the right area?

    Thanks in advance.
    Hello Wigginer in sunny Wigan - from sunny France (21?C today)
    I'm sure you're going to get more authoritive info concerning your enquiry
    from others on this site but I'm very interested in this area since I once lived
    in Rumney Road which was opposite the Kirkdale Homes. Before the Homes,
    ( a euphemism for Workhouse) where I was actually employed for a while, it was what they called an Industrial School, if I remember rightly, and before
    the School it was Kirkdale Gaol. How much,if any, of the Gaol was incorporated in the School and later in the Homes I don't know. Suffice it to say that none of the buildings now exist. They have been replaced by housing. If I can help you further in any way by all means let me know.
    Regards Stan H.

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    Thanks to Ged and Stan for the info and the links.

    That's a bit more of the story uncovered.

    This what the "GAOL" looks like today


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    Hi Wigginer,
    yes, your right! The gaol grounds were turned into the recreation ground ( the rec',as we knew it!) on the photo'.The Kirkdale homes were on the other side of Rumney rd, opposite my old home,no'28, which has now gone!

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    Hi Stan,
    as an ex Rumney roader,thought you might like these pic's,especially the ones of the "Kirkies",as we called them,(sorry if I've posted these before?)
    Steve.

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