Edge Lane Development

[AK1]

There is a difference between houses being feet from the road and shops being feet from the road. People wouldn't want to live there especially families, plus the fact that the houses have pokey back yards, not exactly family friendly. They would end up being diced up into flats and falling into a bad state of repair again.
Some of the houses only need a lick of paint, but some of them need extensive repair costing thousands and some of them are unfit for habitation and need to be demolished. As I have said many times before, the vast majority of people are behind the LLDC plan and this is the plan that will be better in the long term.
As for the judge saying they shouldn't be demolished, if he actually visited the area and saw just how grotty, neglected, dark and unsafe it is, I'm sure he would change his mind.
I do genuinely hate to see any of our 'heritage' lost, but I feel in this case that demolition will be better for the people wheras renovation will only be better for our history. People are more important.

[Jericho]

Apart from rush hour I have never experienced Edge Lane as being all that busy. This area has been an eyesore for years. LCC deliberately allowed the area to run down rather than transforming it in an adaptive way that allowed the local community to work with the LCC and enabled the city as a whole to keep the best architecture in this area and avoid traffic congestion. The proposed plans for the redevelopment of this area and the awful housing envisaged are unimaginative in the extreme - more suitable for the East Lancs Road than a key road into the heart of the city cente.

It's no coincidence that it's the poor areas of the city that are continually being torn apart by LCC's lack of thinking ahead and refusal to stem the process by which an entire area becomes blighted (Norris Green, Granby parts of Kensington, Kirkdale etc). It started in the 60s and it's still going on. How the hell do they get away with it?

[AK1]

There are certain times when edge lane isn't busy but it is very busy during rush hour. The widening and realigning of the road by LLDC is a preventative measure. In the next couple of years that section of edge lane will become gridlocked unless the road is improved. The LLDC plan is about the long term future for edge lane to ensure it will become a safer and more pleasant experience for drivers and the public.
I do agree that the council did leave areas like Kenny, Norris Green and Anfield in an awful state for way too long, but this was largely due to lack of co-operation from the public and lack of funding. The council now has both of these in most cases and is now carrying out major improvements in all the areas mentioned. There is new high quality housing being built in Norris Green and alot of the houses have been refurbished. Kenny is undergoing massive changes with victorian shop frontages being restored and new facilities such as a new fire station and community centre being built. Anfield is about to undergo massive changes with new houses and community facilities being built alongside the new stadium. The council had to wait for the stadium to get funding before they could do anything in Anfield.
One thing that annoys is when people suggest that the council love demolishing our victorian architecture. If this was the case then why are hundreds of victorian houses in Anfield and Kenny being refurbished. Wouldn't the council have just demolished them and started again. Leopold road in kenny is a prime example of how the council does retain victorian buildings when it is safe and viable to do so.

[AK1]

Please Read!

http://icliverpool.icnetwork.co.uk/l...name_page.html

[theninesisters]

Please Read!

http://icliverpool.icnetwork.co.uk/l...name_page.html

As long as they keep the air raid shelters next door then I'd be well chuffed to see this building put to some good use!

[AK1]

Not sure about them, i'll try to find out.

[theninesisters]

Not sure about them, i'll try to find out.

Not many people know about them, not even Sub Brit have been in them. They'll have a job demolishing all those concrete slabs though - and as they go down towards Wavertree Road, they're not small!

[scouserdave]

"Geraud UK, owner of Liverpool wholesale fruit and vegetable market, has this week begun a nine-week evaluation of the market’s potential with a view to creating a “future-proof” market for the north-west.

Liverpool City Council has identified the Edge Lane location of the market as a strategically important site, obliging Geraud, which took on ownership of the site in 2003, to undertake research to define the future direction of the market and its tenants."

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[Howie]

Judge blocks £70m Edge Lane gateway

A VITAL £70m scheme to reshape the vital Edge Lane corridor into Liverpool was legally frozen last night, following the latest court victory by campaigning grandmother Elizabeth Pascoe.

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[Kev]

DERELICT houses will line Liverpool’s Edge Lane for the foreseeable future

[Harry]

Liverpool will never, ever reach its full potential because of this type of bloody-minded attachment to all things old and rotten by its insular population.
Too many people simply think they are doing everyone else a favour by burdening them with their own cockeyed sense of marvellous history, be it stale 1960's music, ugly old warehouses, decrepit transport or, in this case, obsolete housing made of rotten red bricks.
Liverpool people ramble on about "the Community" when in reality all this is is people who just happen to live in the same place. Real community disappeared years ago and is alive only in tiny pockets nowadays.
When did Liverpool people become so parochial, so out-of-touch with development in the rest of the world? This city used to be outward looking and progressive, its people much travelled and worldwise but its stagnated disgracefully to the point where we seem to be stuck in a bubble, a stinking, blinkered timewarp, especially on local radio and newspapers, where everything is wonderfull and the rest of the world thinks we're great.
We've actually started to resemble the bigoted scouse stereotypes that have been doing the rounds for decades.

[Ged]

Are you upset Harry.

[Jericho]

Liverpool will never, ever reach its full potential because of this type of bloody-minded attachment to all things old and rotten by its insular population.
Too many people simply think they are doing everyone else a favour by burdening them with their own cockeyed sense of marvellous history, be it stale 1960's music, ugly old warehouses, decrepit transport or, in this case, obsolete housing made of rotten red bricks.
Liverpool people ramble on about "the Community" when in reality all this is is people who just happen to live in the same place. Real community disappeared years ago and is alive only in tiny pockets nowadays.
When did Liverpool people become so parochial, so out-of-touch with development in the rest of the world? This city used to be outward looking and progressive, its people much travelled and worldwise but its stagnated disgracefully to the point where we seem to be stuck in a bubble, a stinking, blinkered timewarp, especially on local radio and newspapers, where everything is wonderfull and the rest of the world thinks we're great.
We've actually started to resemble the bigoted scouse stereotypes that have been doing the rounds for decades.

Can't say that is my experience but if it's yours so be it.

What's happening around Edge Lane is just the latest in attempts by LCC to ship out a local working class population (for some reason it's never a middle class one) and redevelop an area. The first step in this process is to deliberatley run the area down so that people want to move out. With one or two exceptions in the last 50 years or so this has been an unmitigated disaster and has left parts of Everton looking more like a Welsh hillside than a vibrant inner city community.

I'm interested to see how the battle for Edge Hill works out.

[Cadfael]

Liverpool will never, ever reach its full potential because of this type of bloody-minded attachment to all things old and rotten by its insular population.
Too many people simply think they are doing everyone else a favour by burdening them with their own cockeyed sense of marvellous history, be it stale 1960's music, ugly old warehouses, decrepit transport or, in this case, obsolete housing made of rotten red bricks.
Liverpool people ramble on about "the Community" when in reality all this is is people who just happen to live in the same place. Real community disappeared years ago and is alive only in tiny pockets nowadays.
When did Liverpool people become so parochial, so out-of-touch with development in the rest of the world? This city used to be outward looking and progressive, its people much travelled and worldwise but its stagnated disgracefully to the point where we seem to be stuck in a bubble, a stinking, blinkered timewarp, especially on local radio and newspapers, where everything is wonderfull and the rest of the world thinks we're great.
We've actually started to resemble the bigoted scouse stereotypes that have been doing the rounds for decades.

And on that note, it was sad to hear that the last part of the Stable Yard built in 1860 will be demolished this week - this is on Smithdown Lane opposite the Traffic HQ next to the Tunnels Heritage Centre.

[twiz]

Liverpool will never, ever reach its full potential because of this type of bloody-minded attachment to all things old and rotten by its insular population.
Too many people simply think they are doing everyone else a favour by burdening them with their own cockeyed sense of marvellous history, be it stale 1960's music, ugly old warehouses, decrepit transport or, in this case, obsolete housing made of rotten red bricks.
Liverpool people ramble on about "the Community" when in reality all this is is people who just happen to live in the same place. Real community disappeared years ago and is alive only in tiny pockets nowadays.
When did Liverpool people become so parochial, so out-of-touch with development in the rest of the world? This city used to be outward looking and progressive, its people much travelled and worldwise but its stagnated disgracefully to the point where we seem to be stuck in a bubble, a stinking, blinkered timewarp, especially on local radio and newspapers, where everything is wonderfull and the rest of the world thinks we're great.

Quoted for truth. Mostly anyway.