Toxteth District

PhilipG · 04-30-2007

Originally Posted by wallasey

Thanks for that everyone! Full credit will be given.

Feel free to comment once all images are uploaded. There are 50 odd to do so I've got me work cut out to get it all up!

All the best

Russ

Russ.
Just in case you haven't heard of toxteth.net.
Most of the info in there is usually quite accurate.
At one time I was one of the unofficial "proof-readers".
http://www.toxteth.net/places/liverp...0institute.htm

**wallasey** · 04-30-2007

Originally Posted by PhilipG

Russ.
Just in case you haven't heard of toxteth.net.
Most of the info in there is usually quite accurate.
At one time I was one of the unofficial "proof-readers".
http://www.toxteth.net/places/liverp...0institute.htm

Admittedly, thats where I've been reserching most streets and locations in Toxteth, the last update I did (which concerntrated around Lodge Lane and Albert Park) was written with the aide of Toxteth.net. I have linked the website as it has been so useful!

Just out of interest, does anyone have any images of Beaufort Street School before it fell into dis-repair? It would be interesting to see the building in its entirety!

Many thanks

Russ

EDIT: Just seen Dave Woods image from 1995, what a shame ay?

**marky** · 05-01-2007

Beaufort Street School:
There was a reunion event held in the mid-1970s...I had a Victorian-born relative attend. I hope that the new school in Upper Essex Street (Beaufort Park) have some old photos.
Here's a cutting I kept from a couple of years ago as it has the school in the background.
c)Liverpool Echo. Photo Martin Birchall
The puns in the article contained such gems as 'udderly crazy' and 'Toxteth is ox-teth'. I passed this area and could smell the cows before I saw them. They were in a large tent at the time so I couldn't photograph them.

**marky** · 05-01-2007

Has anyone else heard of a campaign to have Beaufort Street Board Schools demolished. I had a leaflet pushed through the door a while back which mentioned local residents wanting it to be demolished because of the anti-social behaviour it attracts. It mentioned they were having difficulties with the Council over the issue. I think the difficulty may be that it's a LISTED building. It would be a first if a Listed building were to be demolished just because of the behaviour of some kids. I think the leaflet was a Labour Party election leaflet.

PhilipG · 05-01-2007

Originally Posted by marky

Has anyone else heard of a campaign to have Beaufort Street Board Schools demolished. I had a leaflet pushed through the door a while back which mentioned local residents wanting it to be demolished because of the anti-social behaviour it attracts. It mentioned they were having difficulties with the Council over the issue. I think the difficulty may be that it's a LISTED building. It would be a first if a Listed building were to be demolished just because of the behaviour of some kids. I think the leaflet was a Labour Party election leaflet.

It hasn't been mentioned in the latest batch of political cr*p that's come through my door.
I though they'd started to demolish it a few years ago.
The local kids will naturally contribute to it becoming a "dangerous building" so complete demolition will probably ensue.
Is it a "Listed" building?
I ask because St Michael's, Matthew Arnold and South Hill Road Schools have all been demolished and if any should have been Listed, it should have been St Michael's.
Sometimes we just assume buildings are Listed, when they are not.
For instance Coleman's Depository isn't.

**shytalk** · 05-01-2007

Demolishing buildings won't cure anti social behavior anyway, it will just move it to somewhere else.

**Ged** · 05-01-2007

The Heights are MillView and the Florrie is currently being gutted and cleaned out on the inside, bushes, rubbish, roofing timbers, rats and bats. We met with a couple of the activists just at the weekend and are meeting them again on thursday regarding another venture.

**Max** · 05-01-2007

Updated my Toxteth Set and still looking at a couple more photos.

http://www.flickr.com/photos/maxmoly...7594584064630/

Would of done Admiral Grove too but forgot which one was Ringo's but I think I recognised the paint job.

There was a few Beatles fans there too taking pics.

**marky** · 05-01-2007

I've seen reference to Beaufort Street schools being listed...but it was on the internet, so it's not absolute fact. It stated East and West wings listed...(I'll see if I can locate the article)
I think the leaflet I saw mention of demolition plans was a couple of years ago...obviously looking for votes from locals.
After the first round of fires, there were plans for an arts centre. I remember the council saying that if plans weren't carried out within a year or so, then they would have it demolished. It still stands...just.
Funnily enough, I've heard those 1960s style houses (Grafton/Park St area) around there are earmarked for demolition in the next few years. Beaufort Street School may well outlast the local residents.
This looks official...the school is Listed here as grade II
http://216.239.59.104/search?q=cache...lnk&cd=3&gl=uk

**Max** · 05-01-2007

People are still living In those Welsh houses like the ones In Madryn too the only builders there were road workers.

**verdi** · 05-01-2007

Bewy, was to become a Film studios centre. All it needed was 24 hour security, but no! the empty heads got in and burned it. Sometimes I despair, it is a beautiful building, with sandstone mullions and red and blue brick features. Done up it would make a lovely hotel, the views are fantastic. Roll on those Euro millions, you are all invited when I open it!!!

PhilipG · 05-01-2007

Originally Posted by marky

I've seen reference to Beaufort Street schools being listed...but it was on the internet, so it's not absolute fact. It stated East and West wings listed...(I'll see if I can locate the article)
I think the leaflet I saw mention of demolition plans was a couple of years ago...obviously looking for votes from locals.
After the first round of fires, there were plans for an arts centre. I remember the council saying that if plans weren't carried out within a year or so, then they would have it demolished. It still stands...just.
Funnily enough, I've heard those 1960s style houses (Grafton/Park St area) around there are earmarked for demolition in the next few years. Beaufort Street School may well outlast the local residents.
This looks official...the school is Listed here as grade II
http://216.239.59.104/search?q=cache...lnk&cd=3&gl=uk

Thanks Marky.

**wallasey** · 05-02-2007

Goodness me! the caption for the Bewy might be rather long after all thats been said regarding it!

It's been great reading about it and I hope something good happens to it. It would be a shame to see it deteriorate more.

EDIT: Would people rather have me say that the likes of Cockburn Street and Shorefields was in Toxteth or Dingle?

PhilipG · 05-02-2007

I thought this was going to be good, but it's ruined by the bright road sign.

PhilipG · 05-02-2007

Originally Posted by wallasey

Goodness me! the caption for the Bewy might be rather long after all thats been said regarding it!

It's been great reading about it and I hope something good happens to it. It would be a shame to see it deteriorate more.

EDIT: Would people rather have me say that the likes of Cockburn Street and Shorefields was in Toxteth or Dingle?

Well, it's both, but Dingle sounds more accurate.