I did bring up the Everton area in post 19 to explain my position ( not coming from the proposed area). I then got back on thread about the proposed development. I can't give any credence to Lindylou's (or anyone other's) comments when they give no personal background info when making a point.
I've had a chat with GeorgPorgie and he's made valid points about the demolition in his particular part of the Everton area. I still say there were parts that should've been saved.
Back to the thread, I agree every company should make a profit, but Peel's accounts are bewildering( to me anyway). Peel promise much when they get a contract, usually the residents of Peel's greed suffer the consequences (see Salford posts). Peel are a law to themselves (I'm sure you know that), they connive to get their way by any means. I think the investigation into the recent air crash in Newlands Avenue, Peel Green, Salford, might prove interesting, or am I just scaremongering?
ps read peel's small print first
Cheers, Ged,
Chas
I've taken it for granted, ..(I know I probably shouldn't be presuming) .. that most people on the forum know I am from Anfield - - I have refered to my Anfield roots throughout lots of threads through the years on Yo.
I was born here and have never moved - still living here
I can walk to Everton area - 5 mins from me.
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Thanks Grekko, that's what I was meaning .. I am not casting any aspersions on the community of Everton ( and also I think you are right in saying that these vibrant old communities will never be repeated).
I am just saying that the terraced streets would have been looked upon as a blot on the landscape by the people who knew it as a rural area. I bet they didn't relish the sight of their rural idyll being built upon the way it was. According to history books I have read, Everton was a pastoral setting where the gentry strolled the country lanes and grassy slopes to take in the sea air and enjoy the views. Some decades on, and those people from that era would not have recognised the district of Everton. My point is that the area has now reverted to it's original grassy state - just a thought that had occurred to me and probably irrelevant to the thread ..
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(above quote) this was the post that prompted my thoughts - that things have to change, and they do change, and sometimes not to everyones' liking . .
sorry if I rambled a bit.
Chas , I've read and re-read your post with regard to Peel's planning refusal appeal and warning to Merseysiders but I am still left wondering what is it there for? Is it to allow us to read a story from the Salford Star or is it to point out how Govenment legislation and regulation have been altered over approx the last 10 years, and how one specific company are applying those rules and regulations as defined in the acts. Or is it to point out that Salford Council's Development Plan (Core Strategy)has outlined it's proposals for 2010-2030, or maybe even the shambolic Salford Council planning panel meeting which couldn't decide what it's plans were? Whatever it is the post is warning Merseysiders to watch out for , could you highlight them for me please,as I cannot find it/them .
Thank you.
Yes, I agree. Who will redevelop the area then if plans are dropped ?
We are very much looking forward to this stretch of land to be brought into line and match up with the rest of the fantastic improvements that have already been realised.
It will be a sin if it is left to rot.
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Of course, I agree with you that some of the buildings in Everton could have, and should have been saved.
Forget where we posters are from, what's that got to do with it. Where we are not currently from is the area that can be redeveloped and I know for a fact that the people from Vauxhall want it and in fact have campaigned for the likes of the Central docks redevelopment and Project Jennifer on Greaty. It's like someone in Woolton saying why is someone wanting to redevelop Lodge Lane, let them stew. Rather ingenious isn't it?
I agree Lindy, to many the terraced streets were a blot on the landscape but many people wanted their areas to stay the same. I am sure that for many people they have welcomed progress and re-development. To see Everton with grassy slopes and enjoy the nice views must be wonderful.
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I enjoyed it as it was !
I know Marty. Lots of nostalgic memories for all of us in the districts where we lived.
I was just making an observation how areas can totally change, and often times not to everyone's liking.
The same can be said for my own area of Anfield.
People often don't like change, but sometimes we do need to move on and progress.
I'm at bit like that, I don't like change. I sometimes wonder what progress we have made over the years and quite often think we haven't made any ! I know, I'm sad !People often don't like change, but sometimes we do need to move on and progress.
I also don't like change but progress has been made, you no longer have a tin bath!
I will no longer have a bath soon !
We all look back and think the terraced streets were great as were the tennies and they were, they were of their time. Central docks though are acres of unused, derelict and dilapidated land once used for something that will never return. Nothing will be demolished for what is planned. What is the problem?
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