Some Liverpool Cinemas

[steveb]

Whats happened to Dave?



I find It cool that snappel gets up all those Cranes

He sure does, and never breaks into cranes
Iam new to this forum, but my opinion is with out UE,s many places would
be converted, knocked down etc without any documentation of what they
looked like. ABC Lime St, have you tried to get permission to photo inside ?,
I did and was told not a chance, like many places.A lot of the damage is caused by people stealing things, arson, flooding etc, but also by the owners
themselves just letting the building rot. Anyway nthat is my 2d,s worth.
Back on topic has anyone found a pic of the old Cabbage Hall Cinema prior
to LFC supporters club takeover. My grandmother, Gladys Knibb, was in the
ticket box there for many years and I remember going on a Saturday armed
with a few jam jars as my entrance fee..


steveb

[Max]

Seems I mixed up Scouser Dave with someone called ScouseDave.

[PhilipG]

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[snappel]

I'll put it another way. The only 'offence' they committed was trespass. This is not a criminal offence, and so is not breaking criminal law. The building did not suffer, neither did it's owners. The building is still as secure as it was before they entered. Just because you can't see the way in, it doesn't mean it doesn't exist. You are not an all-seeing eye.

If you want to persist in your accusations, then do so, but I tend to look for concrete evidence before doing so, rather than using ropey 'conspiracy theory' style assumptions ("Oh, I can't see how I could be wrong, therefore I must be right"). No wonder this World is in such a state... it's not really any different to saying someone is guilty of a crime because they look like they did it. No different to invading a country because they 'must be up to no good'. Mr Bush would love you!

[ayjaykay]

The building is still as secure as it was before they entered.

But if they (and you) know that the building is not fully secure (i.e. there is a way in), why don't you let the owners know so they can make it MORE secure? That would be the responsible thing to do.

[Ged]

What about that one on Stanley Road Phil, a massive grey roof on it now, it's a packaging firm. Just past Bankhall.

[PhilipG]

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[snappel]

But if they (and you) know that the building is not fully secure (i.e. there is a way in), why don't you let the owners know so they can make it MORE secure? That would be the responsible thing to do.

Now that's a sensible comment. The reason in my case is because I like to explore places, and I'm not going to make it impossible for others. Security of the buildings remains the responsibility of the owners.

However, if a historic building is at risk from being damaged, then it's possible I'll do this. I was, in fact, contacted recently by the owner of a building I'd explored, and was accused of breaking in. When I pointed out to the owner how I'd got in (door, wide open, hinges rusted solid and unmoved for years), the embarassment was on him. Too often building owners are blase, and don't bother to check the places for themselves.

In many cases, such as the Rover car factory, the photos being posted on the web 1) highlighted the security flaws and 2) made the owners secure the buildings properly before any damage/theft could occur.

A recent tragedy was the offices at the Coalite plant in Bolsover, where the place was wide open and the entire company archives (going back to the late 1800s) was strewn about. I contacted two local record offices, and neither were much help. I then contacted the official receivers of the company to ask for the documents, but they were less help still. Last weekend I went back, to find the offices burnt out and all the documents lost.

In short, you'll never stop the vandals. People like me will get in if there's a way, but if there isn't we stay out. A few weeks back I had friends up from the Midlands, who wanted to do Royal Insurance building and the Victoria clocktower. Both had the 'entrances' boarded up so we left disappointed, but thankful that the buildings were safe. Incidentally neither of those were vandalised during the time they were 'open'.

If vandals want to get in somewhere, they'll break a window or smash a door, lob in a petrol bomb or wreck the exterior.

(In the case of the cinema though, there is a locked door between the public and the building - the trick is finding the person with the key )

[ayjaykay]

(In the case of the cinema though, there is a locked door between the public and the building - the trick is finding the person with the key )

I'm curious now! There isn't a door between the cinema and 'Worlds Apart' next door is there?

[steveb]

The Commodore.
Opened 1930.
I'll do some of the surviving former cinemas.
Most of the demolished ones (since 1982) are on my flickr page.

http://www.flickr.com/photos/4443567...7594265619936/



Have you got any pics of the Gem?

Hi
like the pic,s pity they don't show any inside shots. Still looking for pic of what the Cabbage Hall cinema looked like prior to LFC supporters club, see
my previous post

steveb

[Max]

25 January.

My mum sends me In their from time to time.

DIY= Pure evil.

[lindylou]

has anyone found a pic of the old Cabbage Hall Cinema prior
to LFC supporters club takeover. My grandmother, Gladys Knibb, was in the
ticket box there for many years and I remember going on a Saturday armed
with a few jam jars as my entrance fee..


steveb

it's a pity that there are no pictures available. I'd love to see the old Cabbage Hall cinema.

[steveb]

it's a pity that there are no pictures available. I'd love to see the old Cabbage Hall cinema.

Hi

yes there has to be at least one somewere. I will contact LFC sup club
as maybe the architect or someone has one, might ask LRO as well

steve

[scouserdave]

Perhaps if somebody can find the whereabouts of Ambler Ramsden? See post three in this thread. I know he lives in the Old Swan area.

[PhilipG]

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