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    The Scottish church is interesting and should be preserved, I'm not sure but I think it was bought by an out of town doctor who was hoping it would rot and fall down so he could develope the site.
    The pyramid shaped tomb has a gambler buried in it sitting at a card table, or that's how the story goes.
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    Quote Originally Posted by shytalk View Post
    The Scottish church is interesting and should be preserved, I'm not sure but I think it was bought by an out of town doctor who was hoping it would rot and fall down so he could develope the site.
    The pyramid shaped tomb has a gambler buried in it sitting at a card table, or that's how the story goes.
    The place is a gem, the collums at the entrance are fab and the sooner the place is restored the better!!

    Scotsman Will MacKenzie was buried at the Scottish Presbyterian church in Rodney Street. But he is said to haunt the 19th century place of worship after earlier gambling his soul in a game of poker.
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    It gets a mention here

    Does This Train Stop on Merseyside?
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    McKenzie's soul lies above the ground in that
    pyramid near Maryland (Street)

    Easyjet is hanging in the air
    takin' everyone to everywhere

    See the slave ships sailing into port
    the blood of Africa is on every wall

    Now there's a ley line runs down Mathew Street
    it's giving energy to all it meets

    Hey does this train stop
    does this train stop on Merseyside?

    Alan Williams in the Marlboro' Arms
    giving his story out to everyone

    Famine boats are anchored in the bay
    bringing in the poor and desperate

    Hey does this train stop
    does this train stop on Merseyside?

    Boston babies bouncing on the ground
    The Riggers beamin' out to every town

    Can't conceive what those children done
    guess there's a meanness in the soul of man

    Yorkshire policemen chat with folded arms
    while people try and save their fellow fans

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    Robin Hoods Stone (Booker Avenue) - 8ft tall. Some say it was used to sharpen arrows, it could also be one of The Calder Stones. The grooves face the sun, we can assume that the Arches did their sharpening with their backs to the sun!!





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    Before its present

    siting in August 1928, the stone stood in a nearby field known as Stone Hey. The stone was moved when the site was to be built over. A plaque on the base of

    the stone records the bearing from its present position to its former site; 198 feet at a bearing of 7 degrees east of true north.

    Thanks Kev I find

    little things like this facinating.

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    Here's one I found earlier,it's of

    the synagogue in Princes Road Toxteth it's beautiful isn't it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kev View Post
    Robin Hoods Stone (Booker Avenue) - 8ft tall. Some say it was used to sharpen arrows, it could also be one of The Calder Stones. The

    grooves face the sun, we can assume that the Arches did their sharpening with their backs to the

    sun!!





    Looks great for sharpening Shurikens.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Paul

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    Here's one I found earlier,it's of the

    synagogue in Princes Road Toxteth it's beautiful isn't it.
    yes, it's beautiful. It was open to the public just recently I think.

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    Quote Originally Posted by lindylou View Post
    yes, it's beautiful. It was open to the public just recently I think.
    I have been on a visit to that

    synagogue - it really is beautiful. The chap who showed us around was called Dr Mosse and what he did not know wasn't worth knowing. He was really

    entertaining and knowledgeable. He told us the whole history of the synagogue and the community who built it - H Samuels and David Lewis all contributed -

    lots of prominent families gave money for it to the built. Interestingly, the architects who desgined it were the same who designed the church further down

    Princes Road - I think it's the welsh one they used to call "Toxteth Cathedral". It is gorgeous inside - like a little oasis of calm in the middle of the

    busy city.

    If anyone gets a chance to visit I would recommend it highly.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sweetpatooti View Post
    I have

    been on a visit to that synagogue - it really is beautiful. The chap who showed us around was called Dr Mosse and what he did not know wasn't worth

    knowing. He was really entertaining and knowledgeable. He told us the whole history of the synagogue and the community who built it - H Samuels and David

    Lewis all contributed - lots of prominent families gave money for it to the built. Interestingly, the architects who desgined it were the same who designed

    the church further down Princes Road - I think it's the welsh one they used to call "Toxteth Cathedral". It is gorgeous inside - like a little oasis of

    calm in the middle of the busy city.

    If anyone gets a chance to visit I would recommend it highly.
    That architect was

    George Ashdown Audsley Him and his brother were also the architects of the Liverpool

    Art Club Picture Gallery at 98 Upper

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    Went walking round Walton and Bootle

    yesterday...


    County Road/ Kirkdale Vale This small row has

    a variety of buildings which all date from different eras. The building which is set back from the road is likely to be the oldest, closely followed by the

    "Halfway House". By my reckoning, we are probably half way to Walton or Spellow (a small hamlet which even boasted a windmill. The site is now long gone and

    the area is only marked by Spellow Lane) from the City Centre here which is why there is a pub marking the distance.




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    County Road, Walton Just some detailing on a row of victorian shops on County

    Road.


    Barlow Lane, Kirkdale The Georgian properties are

    the earliest buildings around that indicate that this area is much older than it seems. This terrace will have been in open fields at one time. However, the

    developing city of Liverpool soon put a end to that with the area developing at an alarming rate. The old villages of Walton, Kirkdale (Chirkdale) and

    Spellow became engulfed in the expanding city of Liverpool.

    Before we move on, How on earth has one of those properties been allowed to become

    dilapidated? It's just making everything look so scruffy. I wouldn't mind living there ( If I could afford

    it!)


    Carisbrooke Road, Walton I was left speechless when I

    stumbled upon these houses. Such great detailing as been added to these homes as standard. These weren't the olny ones either! There must have been a row of

    6 or so.


    Carisbrooke Road, Walton Someone must have felt

    in a good mood when these houses were built. Why spend money on such extravagent detailing? After all, it's not as if they are large houses or home to rich

    merchants or anything like that.


    Merton Road/Breeze Hill,

    Bootle
    These really were a surprise! I would never have thought that such early examples of housing in Bootle would have survived. The building on the

    left is now under ownership by the NHS and so I would imagine that most of the original fittings have long since gone. However, the building on the left is

    still a domestic residence and is actually up for sale too!

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    There

    are a group of houses very similar to the Barlow Lane houses in the centre of Crewe called Gaffers Row, it where the managers of the railway works lived.

    " If you know your history, then you would know where you coming from".


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    Quote Originally Posted by wallasey View Post

    Carisbrooke Road, Walton Someone must have

    felt in a good mood when these houses were built. Why spend money on such extravagent detailing? Afterall, it's not as if they are large houses or home to

    rich merchants or anything like that.
    May have been built by Jerry Brothers a Liverpool builders. Jerry Brothers were famous for having

    houses that looked grand from the front yet cheap at the rear - all show. Sometines it was shoddy at the rear. The term "Jerry Built", used all over the

    UK, meant grand at the front cheap at the rear, which eventually became meaning shoddily built.

    Many houses in Liverpool and London, only had the

    ornamented front walls built and nothing behind. A show house would be finished to view. When a firm order came in the house behind was built. In many

    cases this resulted in the front wall of the house not keyed into the rest of the house and ocassionally the wall would move forwards. There are a few of

    these houses still around, especially in London. Whe a renovation takes place the Building inspectors insist that heavy angle plates are installed between

    the front wall and the abutting walls to keep the house together and prevent a collapse. In the 1800s house collapses were common - no building

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    Quote Originally Posted by wallasey View Post
    Here's a variety of images I took last

    year...


    This is a shop on Poulton Road, Wallasey. I took it as

    the corn sheaf emblem above the shop shutters really makes the building stand out amongst the rest!


    But do look up at the buildings in the city,

    and the surrounds. Wigan has some nice buildings as does Bootle and Preston too!
    Just catching up on some old posts.
    This shop was a

    Co-op.
    They sold Wheatsheaf bread, hence the carving.
    Also Crumpsall Cream Crackers (made in Crumpsall, Manchester).
    99 Tea.
    Do you remember your

    Divi number?
    I worked for them in the early 1960s.
    This is the same building in 1987.
    The carving says: "Established 1891. Peace and Plenty".
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    Quote Originally Posted by PhilipG View Post
    Just catching up on some old posts.
    This shop was a Co-op.
    They sold Wheatsheaf bread, hence

    the carving.
    Also Crumpsall Cream Crackers (made in Crumpsall, Manchester).
    99 Tea.
    Do you remember your Divi number?
    I worked for them in the

    early 1960s.
    This is the same building in 1987.
    The carving says: "Established 1891. Peace and Plenty".
    Hi Philip

    You say, "They

    sold Wheatsheaf bread, hence the carving." But isn't it the other way around -- that the wheatsheaf was the symbol of the Co-operative Wholesale Society

    (CWS)? Yes CWS made Wheatsheaf Bread and it had the CWS on it which was the wheatsheaf. The symbol appeared on banners and on other artifacts of the

    Co-operative movement.

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