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    I read recently,that the centre is under threat of closure, one of the main reasons being the constant,high level, of vandalism! I've been there several times,having found it by chance, and think it would be sad to lose it,after getting it based in Liverpool, in the first place.Not somewhere many would associate with wild flowers,etc.
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    Quote Originally Posted by wsteve55 View Post
    I read recently,that the centre is under threat of closure, one of the main reasons being the constant,high level, of vandalism!
    Steve, unfortunately we were greeted by a vandalised park (burnt stuff) yesterday but it didn't detract from a lovely couple of hours actually inside the Center (the park isn't within the confines of the security fence). It was the only bit of vandalism I've seen in 2 years of visiting regularly.









    There are CCTV cameras there as well.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kev View Post
    Steve, unfortunately we were greeted by a vandalised park (burnt stuff) yesterday but it didn't detract from a lovely couple of hours actually inside the Center (the park isn't within the confines of the security fence). It was the only bit of vandalism I've seen in 2 years of visiting regularly.

    There are CCTV cameras there as well.
    Sad pictures! Why do people feel the need to destroy such things?

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    http://www.nwc.org.uk/

    Its within Victorian Court Hey park and has several entrances. Access is from Roby Road, Childwall Valley Road and Chelwood Avenue.

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    One of our Spitfires is no longer missing
    Oct 8 2007 by Liam Murphy, Liverpool Daily Post

    A WARTIME Spitfire which crashed in a Merseyside park was resurrected this weekend, 65 years after the accident.

    Enthusiasts and historical experts have dug up parts of the plane which locals said caused “quite a bang” when it plummeted out of the Wirral skies on October 14, 1942.

    About a quarter of the aircraft, including its complete Rolls-Royce Merlin engine, all the cockpit instrumentation, part of the pilot’s seat, and even the remains of the pilot’s sunglasses, have so far been recovered from an 18ft-deep hole at Birkenhead Park.

    Among those watching the excavation was Arthur Aspey, one of the few remaining eye-witnesses to the crash, which the aircraft’s pilot miraculously survived.

    “It was quite a nice day,” recalled Mr Aspey, who was a 13-year-old schoolboy playing in the park when he heard the plane’s engine and looked up to see it “nose down, right into the ground”.

    “I was not quite at the site, but I saw it coming down and there was a bang,” he said.

    Mr Aspey, now a 78-year-old retired electrician, lived close to the park and remembers Sgt Woodcock, one of the park’s police officers, keeping people away from the crash site.

    He said: “It was all such a long time ago. I saw the crash and all the people running towards me. Sgt Woodcock wouldn’t let anyone near it.

    “I was told that at the girls’ school nearby, one of the teachers thought it was a bomb and ordered all the children under their desks.”

    The plane’s famous silhouette, with smooth contoured lines and oval wings, helped to lodge it firmly in the public mind as the most instantly recognisable aircraft of World War II.

    It is understood the pilot of the Birkenhead Park Spitfire, Sgt Goudie of the Royal Canadian Air Force, bailed out after experiencing engine trouble.

    He believed he had aimed his stricken aircraft at the Mersey but it carried on farther than expected, fortunately crashing into the park rather than any of the surrounding buildings.

    The pilot landed on the roof of the maternity hospital in Liverpool. He died in 1975.

    Last week saw the culmination of two years’ planning by the Warplane Wreck Investigation Group (WWIG).

    The organisation has had an established museum at Fort Perch Rock since 1977, with a collection which includes various items from many aircraft and 20-plus aircraft engines as part of the Blitz over Merseyside Exhibition.

    WWIG member John Molyneux said: “The engine is in beautiful condition, with everything else compacted on top of the engine itself.”

    The excavation was undertaken with the co-operation of Wirral council and the Merseyside Archaeology Office.

    Recovered items will be cleaned up and eventually put on display at Fort Perch Rock and Birkenhead Park Pavilion, along with eye witness statements and photographs.

    The WWIG has asked anyone else who witnessed the crash or has any information about it to contact them.

    Information can be sent to: Curator, Warplane Wreck Investigation Group Museum, Fort Perch Rock, Marine Promenade, New Brighton, CH45 2JU. Tel 0797 628 2120 , or email d.darroch@ntlworld.com

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    Hi,
    I'm a researcher for the University of Liverpool and English Heritage, researching a history of the city's parks. Over the last 2 years I've followed all the debates surrounding Liverpool's parks and have sought to consider them from every side. One thing is clear - Liverpool does not have a shortage of parks. The big challange facing the city's parks is that parks are forced to compete against one another for funds. If money goes to Sefton, it doesn't go to Newsham and vice versa. One of the best ways of assuring a good future for the parks is to identify what is special and significant about each site. When parks are vandalised and damaged it is hard to do this. However, even vandalism doesn't destroy memories and the affection that residents have for their city's green spaces.



    If any of you, or your friends and relatives have stories, memories, pictures, ephemera relating to Liverpool's parks, I'd love to hear from you. The project website is at: http://www.liv.ac.uk/history/researc...ect/index1.htm and there is an email address there if you'd like to send things directly.
    All contributions very welcome.

    Look out for my short history of the parks, published by English Heritage, which will be out later this year.

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    Hallo Katy,

    You might perhaps find this link interesting?? http://www.hilaryburrage.com/liverpo...erpools_parks/

    It's some bits of documentation of the comings and goings in the Parks sagas. More to follow..!

    Good luck
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    Quote Originally Posted by ChrisGeorge View Post
    Hi Suburban

    Your disturbing post inspired the following poem from me which is now on the 800 Poems site celebrating Liverpool's 800 years of history. I hope Steph and her ilk enjoy the notoriety and my little rant might inspire some action from the council and other responsible parties.

    All the best

    Chris


    Graffiti in St. John's Gardens

    You've sprayed your name all over the place
    Aye, your name just sits there, in our face

    Your contribution to the Year of Culture
    shows you to be just one more vulture

    Ah, eight hundred years of this?
    Your fellow Scousers might wish -- not

    Child, you're just wasting our time:
    the taxpayer money used to clean up your muck
    could be used to fight bigger crime

    Christopher T. George

    Well done Chris, by the way the graffiti is still there. Why the council don't clean up the gardens as well as the statues is beyond me?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Libertarian View Post
    Well done Chris, by the way the graffiti is still there. Why the council don't clean up the gardens as well as the statues is beyond me?

    Instead of constantly complaining, why not get of yer ar*e and do something yourself. ????

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    Quote Originally Posted by Steven View Post
    Instead of constantly complaining, why not get of yer ar*e and do something yourself. ????
    I have I wrote to the council saying I believe the armies of unemployed layabouts should be put to use cleaning St John's gardens for their benefit money provided through my taxes.

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    Great idea Libertarian. This should have been done 40 years ago when the rot started to set in.
    You can always count on Americans to do the right thing - after they've tried everything else.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Libertarian View Post
    I have I wrote to the council saying I believe the armies of unemployed layabouts should be put to use cleaning St John's gardens for their benefit money provided through my taxes.
    Not a new idea.
    The unemployed worked on the laying out of Sefton Park in the 1860s, but they didn't call them 'layabouts'.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Libertarian View Post
    I have I wrote to the council saying I believe the armies of unemployed layabouts should be put to use cleaning St John's gardens for their benefit money provided through my taxes.
    The stick won't work but the carrot just might.

    "They" could give a simple lunch and a one-week bus pass to volunteer workers for a day's work for example. And come down thank the volunteers in person.

    It has to be voluntary, coercion will not work.

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