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    Nice one guys.


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    On the 4th of April 1945, at Ohdruf, the U.S 4th Armoured Division of Pattons Third Army found the first concentration camp discovered by the Western Allies. Although small ,Ohdruf was a foretaste of the horrors yet to be revealed. Patton vomited when he saw it. General Walker XX Corps forced the Burgomaster of Ohdruf and his wife to tour the camp. Afterwards they went home and hanged themselves.
    On 11th of April, 4th Armoured discovered one of the largest concentration camps. Buchenwald, this was more horrific than the former because the former commandants wife ,Ilsa Koch,used the tattooed skin of inmates to make lampshades.
    The pictures shown here were taken at several of the camps and we can see in some of them the guards,male and female, being forced to bury the dead. People who lived near the camps were forced to look at their regimes handiwork..Eisenhower ordered the Allied cameramen to make as much film and take as many photo's as they could because " at some time in the future, some b*st*rd will say this never happened!" That time has arrived, that is why I am posting these pictures,
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    This little lapel badge is from Germany,it is a forget -me-not,and it is worn to remember all of those who died in the concentration camps. As some one mentioned on another thread ,it was not just Jews who died at the hands of the Nazis, Trades Unionist's , homosexuals, Gipsy's, the mentally ill , Freemasons ,Jehovahs Witnesses and many others . I wear that little badge everyday in memory of those who lost their lives , look out for it, there a many of us who wear it proudly,
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    Quote Originally Posted by brian daley View Post
    Two pieces of Italian fascist wartime propaganda, very well executed and expensively done. Old Mussolini was so very vain.......................but he made the trains run on time !
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    Think I'd rather have the late trains!

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    Hi Brian
    Ritchie B was telling me some of the things you guys got upto. Amazing. He told me the missing gory details. Nice one mate.

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    Quote Originally Posted by brian daley View Post
    On the 4th of April 1945, at Ohdruf, the U.S 4th Armoured Division of Pattons Third Army found the first concentration camp discovered by the Western Allies. Although small ,Ohdruf was a foretaste of the horrors yet to be revealed. Patton vomited when he saw it. General Walker XX Corps forced the Burgomaster of Ohdruf and his wife to tour the camp. Afterwards they went home and hanged themselves.
    On 11th of April, 4th Armoured discovered one of the largest concentration camps. Buchenwald, this was more horrific than the former because the former commandants wife ,Ilsa Koch,used the tattooed skin of inmates to make lampshades.
    The pictures shown here were taken at several of the camps and we can see in some of them the guards,male and female, being forced to bury the dead. People who lived near the camps were forced to look at their regimes handiwork..Eisenhower ordered the Allied cameramen to make as much film and take as many photo's as they could because " at some time in the future, some b*st*rd will say this never happened!" That time has arrived, that is why I am posting these pictures,
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    Well timed Brian,with all this talk of the B.N.P.,and the usual claims that this slaughter,never really happened,and it is/was a fabrication by the Jewish controlled media! People forget that 5/6 million Poles died too,many in camps!

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    Quote Originally Posted by brian daley View Post
    This little lapel badge is from Germany,it is a forget -me-not,and it is worn to remember all of those who died in the concentration camps. As some one mentioned on another thread ,it was not just Jews who died at the hands of the Nazis, Trades Unionist's , homosexuals, Gipsy's, the mentally ill , Freemasons ,Jehovahs Witnesses and many others . I wear that little badge everyday in memory of those who lost their lives , look out for it, there a many of us who wear it proudly,
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    Very good.

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    Total Resistance, Ukrania, Autumn 1941.
    The first picture is by the soviet war artist Viktor Safronov ,called "Hard Times" ,he shows the Ukranian partisans making off with their wounded . Capture by the Germans would most certainly result in death and so on they must march. It is interesting to note that the painting is reminiscent of the religious paintings of the pieta, quite odd in an atheistic state.
    The second painting is by Viktor Puzirkov and it is called "The Black Sea People", a heroic study representing the unity of action of the forces against the fascist foe. In the vanguard are a marine, matelot and a soldier, depicting the united stand against the invader,
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    If this thread is still about warships and ships at war, then I submit the following:

    The Portland built Liberty ship Jean Nicolet's merchant crew, naval armed guard and military passengers were subjected to
    brutal treatment, unspeakable horror and torture after their vessel was torpedoed and shelled by the Japanese submarine I-8,
    Captain Ariizumi, commanding. She was attacked on July2, 1944, in the Indian Ocean.
    The 41 people aboard the Jean Nicolet lowered the four lifeboats and four rafts, and all were successfuly embarked in them.
    The I-8 surfaced and shelled the ship. Captain Ariizumi ordered the lifeboats and rafts alongside the sumarine. Captain David
    Martin Nilsson was taken aboard and ordered below, into the submarine; he was never seen or heard of again. The balance of
    the crew, armed guard and passengers were ordered to board the submarine. Several crew members, in the confuusion and
    darkness, pulled away from the submarine in a small doughnut raft.
    The Americans had their hands tied with wire behind their backs. They were then made to run the foredeck gauntlet of the
    submarine's crew. The Japanese bayonetted, clubbed and beat the Americans as they ran the gauntlet. Those who survived
    were thrown overboard. Before the massacre was completed a plane was spotted approaching. The submarine dove to escape
    attack, leaving those American still alive to fend for themselves in the water. About fifteen minutes after the submarine submerged,
    the plane flew over the survivors, dropping rubber dinggies, life jackets, food and water. Within nine hours a total of 23 survivors
    were recued. The casualty list was 31 merchant crew, 19 Naval Armed Guard and 27 passengers lost.
    The I-8, under the command of Captain Shinohara was sunk on March 30, 1945, by USS Morrison and USS Stockton. Presumably
    there were no survivors. Captain Ariizumi's fate is unknown, but had he survived the war, he could have been a prime candidate
    for trial as a war criminal.
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    All of the above account is taken from The Quarterdeck, a publication of the Columbia River Maritime Museum, in an article on
    the fate of Oregon built ships during the Second World War.

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    Hi Malcolm, thank you for that piece, you have thrown a light on an area we see very little of nowadays,Japanese war crimes. In answer to your question re the nature of the thread, I have ben asked a few times to widen the the scope to include all aspects of warfare. Your contribution today helps to do just that, please keep them coming as I know that you are aways factual and interesting,
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    Two more studies by the American war artist nton Otto Fischer. He got most of his material when working in the U.S. Coast Guard and his pictures were all from first hand experience. The first scene is of the firing of a "Y Gun",this device fire two depth charges simultaneously and were meant to straddle the U-boats. They were used with some success but the second picture shows that the wolf packs were more than capable of wreaking damage to the convoys. At night they ran on the surface at speeds of up to 18 knots and caused havoc amongst the slow moving merchant men. We can see the crew pulling away from their stricken vessel. This series of paintings was called Night Action ,Winter North Atlantic 1942.
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    Attachment 15414Attachment 15415Attachment 15416Attachment 15417

    Had a wander down Regent rd,and saw these retired navy ships,being broken up for scrap! I couldn't find out, or see, what their names were,( dreaded health & safety,he said!) but possibly,G.D. took some pic's of these,when they were docked on the other side of the river?


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    And this is how they ended up!

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    Why cant they save one, and then use it for traing kids, it would keep them off the streets.

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    Quote Originally Posted by captain kong View Post
    Why cant they save one, and then use it for traing kids, it would keep them off the streets.
    Or even helping to scrap them,reckon they would be pretty good!!

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