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    Default Any proof - anywhere???

    I was looking through google for someone called fielding and came across this forum to do with Most Haunted/Derek Acorah as Yvette Fielding was mentioned so I took a peek as it said Fake and as I knew about the phoney haunted bed mistake he once made, getting the bed and the room it was in mixed up, I proceeded to read through the forum.

    It seems he does know where the locations are though the programme say he doesn't, he carries an internet wired laptop etc, locations claiming to keep their experiences on the quiet have in fact been found to be selling tee shirts etc. Even the 'fors' on this forum seem to becoming sceptics



    What a great big con and dare I say it, it's mainly gullible or love lorn women who like the likes of Degsy or others that seem to bother to watch.

    I'm afraid bits of dust floating about in a much unused room or orbs don't dso it for me.
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    Anything so called 'supernatural' is all nonsense.


    all these 'fortune tellers' 'mediums' and suchlike - only very gullible people get taken in with it.

    Sorry to any believers looking in.

    I shouldn't speak against my own fair sex - but it's usually bored and gullible women who are taken in with this big con - - other than that - the very young such as teens or young twenties who have not yet experienced life and know no better !

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    Actually, i do believe in the Supernatural, i go to Spiritualist church etc. I have had a few dodgy readers but some so accurate it would shock you. I lost a son years ago, i was told he was there, what he was wearing, his age and name (nobody knew what i put on him in coffin). I was told about a conversation i had earlier that evening. I have presences in my home, they were regular until a medium came a few months ago, one actually grabbed my daughters throat. I hear lightswitches click off and on in front room (they are touch sensitve and remote) and door handles move. A lot of people DON'T believe in it, that is their choice and i would NEVER force my opinions on anyone, only tell them my experiences.
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    Quote Originally Posted by lottie View Post
    Actually, i do believe in the Supernatural, i go to Spiritualist church etc. I have had a few dodgy readers but some so accurate it would shock you. I lost a son years ago, i was told he was there, what he was wearing, his age and name (nobody knew what i put on him in coffin). I was told about a conversation i had earlier that evening. I have presences in my home, they were regular until a medium came a few months ago, one actually grabbed my daughters throat. I hear lightswitches click off and on in front room (they are touch sensitve and remote) and door handles move. A lot of people DON'T believe in it, that is their choice and i would NEVER force my opinions on anyone, only tell them my experiences.
    On a more serious side, I do empathise with anyone who has lost a loved one and needs some kind of comfort.
    After my cousin was murdered I went with my aunty to a medium - also, my in-laws who lost a little boy. I don't believe in it, but people who are in grief and are heartbroken are desperate for a sign .. and of course I can understand that. However, no 'message' from their loved ones appeared.

    5 generations of my family have lived in my house - two of them actually died here - yet none of the dead ones have appeared yet !! surely my great grandparents and grandparents should be floating around here somewhere !!
    I have never ever seen or heard a thing in this house.

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    First of all, Most Haunted was/is crap but I thought that was the whole point. I really didn't think that anyone believed that Acorah was getting his info from Sam. Did they? It was all just a load of entertaining hocum, right?

    However, that doesn't then prove that everything to do with weird phenomenon and hauntings and such is a load of rubbish. People have a right to believe anything they wish and much of what they believe is based upon experience. If someone has an experience that is 100% real to them then that is their reality. We should respect people's belief in ANYTHING as much as we respect religious beliefs which, for all intents and purposes, amount to the same thing. It is only as hard to prove that ghosts exist as it is to prove that Jesus Christ is the son of God: that is, impossible to some and perfectly simple to others.

    Equally, I've met loads of people who have had weird experiences which are definitley real to them but which they still don't necessarily have any explanation for. The unexplained; that's just stuff that hasn't been or can't be explained but you can't say it's not real.
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    I personnally can't stand Most Haunted - although I've only seen it a couple of times. What a load of rubbish! I don't dismiss supernatural occurances, but if really pushed I'd say I'm a non-believer.

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    I believe 'occurences' are more scientific than supernatural. What annoys me with Most Haunted is that there seems to be a helluva lot going on in the 45 minutes of the programme...
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    Never seen "Most haunted", but I do believe theres more to life, than we can easily understand, or believe!
    Years ago,someone in the place I worked in, thought it would be fun to get a medium in,and most of us agreed to see them.My turn came, and all I got was the usual,"who's this,and what's that, from her, until I said "you're supposed to be telling me" she paused for a minute,then ran off 3/4 things about me that she couldn't possibly have known,about my family/personal life,which left me gobsmacked! She went on to "pad" it out with some drivel, but the experience gave me reason to think there was at least ,something, to this kind of thing

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    I don't watch stuff like Most Haunted, but theres a science to all the supernatural stuff, It's still a supernatural thing though.

    The Ouija board stuff It makes sense that It could be a telekinetic thing as you move the planchette the around, your using/creating energy so the mover could be powering It to cause what It does.

    Reality Is defined depending on what the Individual accepts as correct and true which doesn't really prove whats real or not for some things.
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    The only time I ever used a oo-jar board was when I was starving once and wanted to conjur up a toffee crisp like on that advert. Even that didn't work.

    My daughter brought your book home from her work's book club thingyo though John. Will get round to reading it this weekend.
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    Even Yvette Fielding says Derek Acorah is fake.

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    Quote Originally Posted by macateb View Post
    Even Yvette Fielding says Derek Acorah is fake.
    So is she and the rest of them on the programme
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    Most of the potions witch doctors and Voodoo like people for example too are forms of drugs.

    The supernatural Is very real.
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    A programme on the other night about some village somewhere in Africa I think, they were believing some of the children were witches.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ged View Post
    A programme on the other night about some village somewhere in Africa I think, they were believing some of the children were witches.
    Saw that too but most real voodoo potions like the Haitian zombie drug Involves puffer fish which the way they make It paralyses the victim of the Haitian Zombie drug.

    What the Nigerians were doing were showing how backwards and uneducated they were and how schemers make money off It.
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