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    Does anyone know what this building was used for originally. Ron Formby of the Scottie Press is interested in the mosaics on the entrance floor which seem to be a thistle or similar. It has just opened as 'The Italian Club' cafe.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ged View Post
    Does anyone know what this building was used for originally. Ron Formby of the Scottie Press is interested in the mosaics on the entrance floor which seem to be a thistle or similar. It has just opened as 'The Italian Club' cafe.
    Thank ye.
    Is there a photo of it?
    I'm not sure which is 85.
    It doesn't seem to be mentioned by Joseph Sharples (at least not by number).

    Here's the 1936 directory entry.
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    Here's one of Ron's pics. It's driving me mad that I can't place where it is. Ged mate, is it anywhere near to the bookshop that has your display in the window?


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    Dave, it's opposite News from Nowhere and up a few doors facing the fruit stalls.
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    Phil. Ron reckons Gill and Colley (est 1901) were a Scottish Co. Shown on your 1936 register (thanks for that) If they were in that building in 1901 it is possible that the Liverpool Italians would have done that mosaic, I think that's what he's trying to find out.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ged View Post
    Dave, it's opposite News from Nowhere and up a few doors facing the fruit stalls.
    Nice one Ged

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    Hi Ged
    1911 directory listing is 85 Bold St -Campbell P&P the Perth Dye Works

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    Ged, check your inbox mate. Ron's just sent us a piccie


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    Hi Ged, Dave, et al.

    Dave has helpfully started a Liverpool mosaics thread. I am trying to ascertain whether it was Frank Murray responsible for the Castle Street mural of shipping on the former British and Foreign Marine Insurance Company Building or whether as the Scottie Press Little Italy site says, it was the Salviati company of Venice.

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    Hiya Mandy, Dave, Chris.

    Mandy, thanks for that - the Scottish connection is there then even in 1911.

    Dave, yes got that but I knew you'd post it up (your pics look better than mine even when your just forwarding someone else's on ha ha) I didn't wanna hog the thread.

    Chris. I'm googling. Some interesting stuff but haven't come up with any answers yet, keeps referring me back to the scottie press .
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ged View Post
    Phil. Ron reckons Gill and Colley (est 1901) were a Scottish Co. Shown on your 1936 register (thanks for that) If they were in that building in 1901 it is possible that the Liverpool Italians would have done that mosaic, I think that's what he's trying to find out.
    Ged, it actually said 1801, but Mandy's 1911 gives a different occupant.
    Even with the picture, I still can't visualise the building!

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    Quote Originally Posted by ChrisGeorge View Post
    Hi Ged, Dave, et al.

    Dave has helpfully started a Liverpool mosaics thread. I am trying to ascertain whether it was Frank Murray responsible for the Castle Street mural of shipping on the former British and Foreign Marine Insurance Company Building or whether as the Scottie Press Little Italy site says, it was the Salviati company of Venice.

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    Hi Chris, I know this sounds daft, but I wonder if "Frank Murray 1889" which is on the mosaic, simply graffiti? The person over at http://myweb.tiscali.co.uk/speel/place/lpoolth.htm may have presumed it was the artist's name......and soft ollies here perpetuates the myth by posting it on Yo

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    Quote Originally Posted by scouserdave View Post
    Hi Chris, I know this sounds daft, but I wonder if "Frank Murray 1889" which is on the mosaic, simply graffiti? The person over at http://myweb.tiscali.co.uk/speel/place/lpoolth.htm may have presumed it was the artist's name......and soft ollies here perpetuates the myth by posting it on Yo

    Hi Dave

    Your photo as shown below does appear to show that the name is actually on the picture itself and looks to be a period inscription. Again, it could be that the Italian company provided the glass, since they did make other glass things, and that Mr. Murray did the design, although we might need further information to confirm that. Frank Murray was a British artist who lived from 1848 to 1920 and was responsible for other maritime related works are similar to the design of the mosaic. (See http://www.artnet.com/Artists/LotDet...1F16FF31DC53A3)

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    Quote Originally Posted by scouserdave View Post
    Hi Chris, I know this sounds daft, but I wonder if "Frank Murray 1889" which is on the mosaic, simply graffiti? The person over at http://myweb.tiscali.co.uk/speel/place/lpoolth.htm may have presumed it was the artist's name......and soft ollies here perpetuates the myth by posting it on Yo
    Joseph Sharples makes everything clear.

    In his words:
    "The former British & Foreign Marine Insurance Co., 1888-90, by Grayson & Ould. Red brick with red sandstone and terracotta. Mosaic frieze above the first floor with shipping scenes, designed by Frank Murray and made by Salviati."

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    Quote Originally Posted by PhilipG View Post
    Ged, it actually said 1801, but Mandy's 1911 gives a different occupant.
    Even with the picture, I still can't visualise the building!
    Where's me flamin' bins . Ta Phil.
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