The Old Brook House

[Max]

http://toxteth.net/places/liverpool/...0house%201.htm

Only source I can find on It although how dare It associates my area with the ghetto.

Says the corner of Lidderdale but was It the corner where the old stables are?

[ChrisGeorge]

http://toxteth.net/places/liverpool/...0house%201.htm

Only source I can find on It although how dare It associates my area with the ghetto.

Says the corner of Lidderdale but was It the corner where the old stables are?

Hi Max

As noted on toxteth.net on the page you cited, the old Brook House is discussed in Richard Griffiths' The History of the Royal and Ancient Park of Toxteth. As Griffiths describes, the datestone from the original Brook House of 1754 that stood at the corner of Lidderdale Road and Smithdown Road was at one time in the wall of the bowling green of the later pub, though as Toxteth.net notes, it wasn't seen on a recent visit. This is possibly something I can investigate when I am in the 'Pool May 15-21 or something you can check out in the meanwhile before I arrive on the scene. Let me know, Max.

All my best

Chris

[Max]

The bowling green Is now the Car Park and Beer Garden I think.

So was It exactly where the datestone Is then because that wouldn't be on the corner of Lidderdale otherwise?

[ChrisGeorge]

The bowling green Is now the Car Park and Beer Garden I think.

So was It exactly where the datestone Is then because that wouldn't be on the corner of Lidderdale otherwise?

Hi Max,

To clarify, the datestone from the earlier Brook House was saved and put in the brick wall of the bowling green of the later pub to the east of the original location.

Chris

[iain]

When I first came to Liverpool it was the Finch & Firkin and what a brilliant pub it was. Since it became It's A Scream I've gone right off it. Shame

[Max]

When I first came to Liverpool it was the Finch & Firkin and what a brilliant pub it was. Since it became It's A Scream I've gone right off it. Shame

Too many students go to It too.

I've always known It as the Brookhouse though due to the words always on the building.

[stan]

What is it you have against students?

[Max]

They wreck and litter my area.

Wake my sister up between 3am and 5am which means I wake up having to put up with shouting In the street while sleeping.

Some can't even get an alleygate key.

It takes at least 3 of them to carry a 12 pack of larger In a shopping trolley.

They bring rats back to the alleys by leaving bin bags In the Alleyways for the rats to rip open.

They throw rubber johnnies In the alley rather than In their own bins.

Taxi's most nights are driving down here being the lazy drivers they are beeping their horns off distrubing the peace Instead of just knocking on their fares door.

Because of them Smithdown road Is Infested with takeaways and the pubs have lost their history.

The Councils excuse Is well they bring money Into the city but they don't pay Tax.

There thick as pig****. They may get a University education but they don't know **** about looking after themselves, the area they live In and common courtesy.

They leave their wheely bins all over the place resulting In alot of fires around here.

We get alot of then asking my mum things like lending them our alley gate key since they lose theirs and their landlords and themselves are too lazy to get a new one and even when they got a so called Plumber, the plumber and the students never knew where to shut off the water.

Didn't their parents teach them anything Instead of just spoiling them and sending them money? Everyone argues with their parents or **** happens but I'm glad my Mum taught me properly.

[stan]

They wreck and litter my area.

Wake my sister up between 3am and 5am which means I wake up having to put up with shouting In the street while sleeping.

Some can't even get an alleygate key.

It takes at least 3 of them to carry a 12 pack of larger In a shopping trolley.

They bring rats back to the alleys by leaving bin bags In the Alleyways for the rats to rip open.

They throw rubber johnnies In the alley rather than In their own bins.

Taxi's most nights are driving down here being the lazy drivers they are beeping their horns off distrubing the peace Instead of just knocking on their fares door.

Because of them Smithdown road Is Infested with takeaways and the pubs have lost their history.

The Councils excuse Is well they bring money Into the city but they don't pay Tax.

There thick as pig****. They may get a University education but they don't know **** about looking after themselves, the area they live In and common courtesy.

They leave their wheely bins all over the place resulting In alot of fires around here.

We get alot of then asking my mum things like lending them our alley gate key since they lose theirs and their landlords and themselves are too lazy to get a new one and even when they got a so called Plumber, the plumber and the students never knew where to shut off the water.

Didn't their parents teach them anything Instead of just spoiling them and sending them money? Everyone argues with their parents or **** happens but I'm glad my Mum taught me properly.

I can certainly sympathise with what you say happens in your area and I certainly wouldn't want to defend these people,but I don't think it's safe to generalise about a certain group of people....I have noticed you disparaging students on several occasions and these aren't throwaway comments-you seem to have a genuine dislike and I believe that propogating a generalised view of people can encourage ignorance and ill feeling amongst the more bloody minded memebers of our city.I used to socialise a lot with students when I was single,from all different parts of the country and from all different parts of Europe,and the majority of them were respectful.
The problems you describe happen all over Liverpool,what would your reaction be if someone said "All scousers are lazy and irresponsible."

[Max]

Of course these problems happen all over Liverpool with not just students as well.

My reaction to all Scousers being lazy and responsible would be that to think It's not true but their are alot of daft scousers though not all so that comment about alot of lazy ones wouldn't surprise me.

Met some Ok students If they show themselves to be ok people then I won't hate them for being students, my sister will be one In September.

I only generalise the ones what I post about though and It's not just me In my area thats complained about them we've had leaflets through the door about what they do In the area.

Maybe I might encourage or Ill feeling but people have their own minds to not be encouraged by what I say.

Plus some of my student posts are for humorous purposes too.

[iain]

everything that's wrong with students

I wouldn't say that's true for all students, but a lot is true for a some, maybe a lot, of students. I live with one and he ticks nearly all the boxes but he's off at the end of June

[Max]

He'll be replaced by the same kind of students most likely.

[Shapers]

You not a tad jealous of there promiscuous lifestyle Max?

[Max]

I sure am jealous of talking like an Eastender, staying up till 4am then Uni at 10am, eating **** all the time, trashing house to house so the landlord can annually renovate, saying Yeah maannn like an Eastender hippie, getting high all I want, leaving the leccy near something soft resulting In kick arse fires, drinking alcohol like George Bush wanting Iraqi Oil and making shagging noises through the walls.

Oh I'm jealous alright.

[Ged]

Can we talk some more about those shagging noises though first?