Eldon Grove Housing

[Kev]

Eldon Grove in 2003:



....and my dad used to live in Myrtle Gardens.

[Kev]

Here's what life was like in 1910, Eldon Street:

[drone_pilot]

Anyone any idea what's happening to Eldon grove i took some images last week and while i was there, there was no sign of work, no equipment nothing in fact, just one or two rusty old portacabins (security)? i shouted but there was no one about.

[Gerard]

Anyone any idea what's happening to Eldon grove i took some images last week and while i was there, there was no sign of work, no equipment nothing in fact, just one or two rusty old portacabins (security)? i shouted but there was no one about.

Great Pics DP..
My neck of the woods..My Old Man was born about 2 minutes from there on Arley St..
I think its a crying shame the way that block has been left to Degenerate and its about time our local MP's did something about it...

And when I can remember her name I will put it on here...

And dont do them up into yuppie apartments FFS...give them to locals instead of people who would normaly drive straight through this area and lock their car doors while Mobile.

[taffy]

Great Pics DP..
My neck of the woods..My Old Man was born about 2 minutes from there on Arley St..
I think its a crying shame the way that block has been left to Degenerate and its about time our local MP's did something about it...

And when I can remember her name I will put it on here...

And dont do them up into yuppie apartments FFS...give them to locals instead of people who would normaly drive straight through this area and lock their car doors while Mobile.

Yes this lovely block should not be allowed to deteriorate more. It looks as if the developer has run out of money and work has stopped. Much the same as the Baltic Triangle development I suppose. It's not just the yuppies who have to worry about their cars as they drive through the area. I well remember the local kids chucking bricks over the fence at the rear of the block. They were trying to hit the cars on the other side, mine included !!!

[scouserdave]

Work's progressing, but on the slow side. If you look at the pics (Thanks Droney ) and compare to a few years back, you can see a big difference. I know George Kountis who owns the development. I'll give him a bell later on and get an update from him.

[drone_pilot]

Yes you could see some work done, new roof, new pointing, collapsed brickwork removed.

[Gerard]

It's not just the yuppies who have to worry about their cars as they drive through the area. I well remember the local kids chucking bricks over the fence at the rear of the block. They were trying to hit the cars on the other side, mine included !!!

So you never threw a stone when you were a Kid Taff !!...I did..Its called growing up mate..goes with Job !!

Im referring to snooty people who would normally turn their nose up at you and would not want to be normally associated with the likes of Scottie Rd...

Keep them Out..these are local houses and local people should get them and not some rich kid who wont mix in the area and will only step foot outside to leave the secured Car Park ..
And Louise Ellman should do her best to make sure them houses dont end up as yuppie apartments.

[Kev]

So you never threw a stone when you were a Kid Taff !!...I did..Its called growing up mate..goes with Job !!

Im referring to snooty people who would normally turn their nose up at you and would not want to be normally associated with the likes of Scottie Rd...

Keep them Out..these are local houses and local people should get them and not some rich kid who wont mix in the area and will only step foot outside to leave the secured Car Park ..
And Louise Ellman should do her best to make sure them houses dont end up as yuppie apartments.

Spot on Gerard, not sure though whether the work would have been started to restore them if there wasn't money to be made from doing so though, shame....

[Gerard]

Spot on Gerard, not sure though whether the work would have been started to restore them if there wasn't money to be made from doing so though, shame....

Looks like according to Daves thread Kev that a developer has taken them over..IF thats the case and Louise Ellman knows of this then she is not worth a Carrot and has let the people of Scottie Road down BIG TIME.

And I hope She gets wind of me saying this...Im no brown nose and will tell her straight..
Sod me photoshoot !!..Lol...

[scouserdave]

Hiya Gerard,
The story behind Eldon Grove is a scandal mate. Don't take this as gospel, but it's more right than wrong. George is a local lad and had been trying to buy them off the Council for a couple of years. They were in a right state by then. Around 2001 or 2002 (this is where I'm a little usnsure with the dates), they agreed to sell to him. All the contracts were signed, but they still messed him about and he had to go through the whole of winter before the block was handed to him. During the winter, a load of slates were nicked off the roof and the water damage to the building came to tens of thousands of pounds. He demanded a refund off the Council due to them being obstructive. They didn't want to know, so to cut a long story short, it got as far as the House of Lords and the Council were ordered to compensate him.

Well that's what I was told, anyway.

[Gerard]

Stones were thrown at my car in the early 1970s. Would this have been you then Gerard !!! As it happens I never threw stones at cars or any other property for that matter. Wasn't I a goodie two shoes.

I agree the houses should remain for local community use but it looks as if a private developer is doing them up. I don't know the background but I suspect this would be for the student rental market. This was their use in the 1970s certainly but the property was owned by a housing association then.

Evenin' taffy,wasn't me mate,I never threw at cars either..just derelict warehouse windows on the Dock Road and other "Bombdies"..

I think its wrong that the Council have sold these off for private development,Is nothing going to be built for the Ordinary man in the street.
What are we voting for these usless MP's for if they dont give a toss about ordinary people..I think its a scandal and they are a disgrace..

[Gerard]

Hiya Gerard,
The story behind Eldon Grove is a scandal mate. Don't take this as gospel, but it's more right than wrong. George is a local lad and had been trying to buy them off the Council for a couple of years. They were in a right state by then. Around 2001 or 2002 (this is where I'm a little usnsure with the dates), they agreed to sell to him. All the contracts were signed, but they still messed him about and he had to go through the whole of winter before the block was handed to him. During the winter, a load of slates were nicked off the roof and the water damage to the building came to tens of thousands of pounds. He demanded a refund off the Council due to them being obstructive. They didn't want to know, so to cut a long story short, it got as far as the House of Lords and the Council were ordered to compensate him.

Well that's what I was told, anyway.

Thanks for that Dave,I've never heard of the developer Dave and I dont blame him for trying to make the Venture work and make a few quid for himself...

I do Blame the MP though who was representing me and my Neighborhood for letting this Block be sold to a Private Developer..
And if that was You Louise Ellman who was in Power when this went through then you are a Disgrace and should be sacked Immediately.

If you were not in Power Louise then you have my sincerest apologies and the MP in Power at the Time should be sacked.

Ged..What do the People on the Scottie Press have to say about this..
They are supposed to be the Voice of the Community..Do they know whats going on here.

[Gerard]

I think in reality families don't want to live in these walk up blocks any more and much prefer purpose built family homes such as in the Eldonian development. As such if someone was willing take a derelict listed property off the council's hands, I suspect they just jumped at the offer

I think the last 10 years should have been enough to reveal the Labour party in its true light. How anyone could have voted for the champagne socialists of New Labour is beyond me. Technically of course Louise Ellman belongs to the Co-operative Party.

Sorry Taff but you are wrong my friend,My Mam lived In that flat on the top landing..24b Gt Richmond St..My Mam and others who were very happy living there and had lived there for years were moved out to make these into Luxury apartments..Another Disgraceful move by the Council.

[Kev]

Sorry Taff but you are wrong my friend,My Mam lived In that flat on the top landing..24b Gt Richmond St..My Mam and others who were very happy living there and had lived there for years were moved out to make these into Luxury apartments..Another Disgraceful move by the Council.

Are these the Wavertree ones? Having seen these, derelict for many years with its associated antisocial behaviours, I was glad to have seen them converted and in use again. Many local people live in them now.

Now, converting similar housing into student accommodation? That's another thing!