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    It was an honourary title.
    He wasn't a real constable.

    John Prescott has been made a Lord, but it doesn't make him a gentleman.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Quentin_Sharples View Post
    It's not a genuine Blue Plaque.

    1861 "Too late".
    Sorry about that, but "Probably too late" should have been said.
    PhilipG proved that Dickens had been a "special constable" at least as early as 1848.
    In the 1860s he was getting on.

    The Bridewell was built in 1860-1, and opened in 1861.
    That has been proved.

    Are you going to say I've been to the Taj Mahal simply because it existed during my lifetime?
    Sorry, but that is not an analogous situation: of course I was NOT saying anything as daft as 'Dickens must have been at the Argyll St./Campbell St. bridewell because it existed during his lifetime'.

    I am however saying that he not only had Liverpool connections over quite a number of years, but was probably a special constable at a bridewell that was almost certainly one of two within a few hundred yards of each other. And even if it is more likely (although not proven) that he was at Seel St in 1848, does this rule him out from being at the other 12 years later? As far as I can see, we just don't know...

    And do you know for a fact that the plaque is not genuine? - If so, should it be allowed to remain?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Quentin_Sharples View Post
    It was an honourary title.
    He wasn't a real constable.

    John Prescott has been made a Lord, but it doesn't make him a gentleman.
    So, we are ripping the tourist off and quite deliberately then!! I do not like to hear this. I know when the Cavern stage was sold off in pieces there was enough wood sold to cover Liverpool let alone the Cavern! I was ashamed and embarrassed.
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    Quote Originally Posted by John Doh View Post
    Sorry, but that is not an analogous situation: of course I was NOT saying anything as daft as 'Dickens must have been at the Argyll St./Campbell St. bridewell because it existed during his lifetime'.

    I am however saying that he not only had Liverpool connections over quite a number of years, but was probably a special constable at a bridewell that was almost certainly one of two within a few hundred yards of each other. And even if it is more likely (although not proven) that he was at Seel St in 1848, does this rule him out from being at the other 12 years later? As far as I can see, we just don't know...

    And do you know for a fact that the plaque is not genuine? - If so, should it be allowed to remain?
    I've posted a photo of the plaque.
    The only thing genuine is that it exists.

    Count the mistakes.
    "One day in 1860".
    "Masque Theatre".

    This is a case of: "When the legend becomes bigger than the truth, then print the legend."

    Who am I to say if the plaque should remain?
    The tourists are told little white lies every day.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Quentin_Sharples View Post
    I've posted a photo of the plaque.
    The only thing genuine is that it exists.

    Count the mistakes.
    "One day in 1860".
    "Masque Theatre".

    This is a case of: "When the legend becomes bigger than the truth, then print the legend."

    Who am I to say if the plaque should remain?
    The tourists are told little white lies every day.
    That is not a little white lie if what you say is true. It as a massive lie created to deceive the tourists. If what you say IS true then I for one will do something about it.
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    These watercolour paintings of the Dingle are by Florence M. Willink, c. 1893.

    I checked with the Maritime Museum as to who the artist was. They have photographs of several paintings done in and around the Dingle Bank estate, including the two below.

    The series can be found under D/CT/15/1-17 which forms part of the John Cropper archive.




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