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    John Alexander Brodie (1858-1934) deserves a chapter to himself in the story of Liverpool’s growth as a city. The City Engineer, he had a creative mind – responsible for ‘inventing’ goal nets to stop the disputes that broke out when there were just goalposts and a crossbar – he was also the man who created [...]

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    I have all 112 pics of their construction Colin. Prefabricated at Cobbs Quarry on St. Domingo Road - later the corpy yard. They were transported to Eldon Street by steam traction engine. Other panels were sent to Letchworth where an ideal homes sort of exhibition resulted in further orders. The site where they were in Eldon sat is now occupied by the former Our Ladys of Reconcilliation school caretakers bungalow.
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    Great stuff Colin. Never heard of him before.

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    Never heard of Brodie Avenue?

    You blasphemus wirralite you
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    Great pic's Colin,I used to live just opposite those flats,though well after they,and the school,next door, were demolished! I agree that Brodie should be more widely acknowledged!
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    The tree lined boulevards Colin talks of were not always like that of course. The central reservations were built to house the tram lines which of course are now extinct - or at least some still hidden underneath. Fountains and horse troughs were placed at main junction regular intervals - a couple of the fountains still in situ. Brodie had a self financing idea for the road network by selling off the roadside land frontages for housing. His work was later recognised as a delegation was sent to India to help plan New Delhi.
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    Quote Originally Posted by wsteve55 View Post
    Great pic's Colin,I used to live just opposite those flats,though well after they,and the school,next door, were demolished!
    And we still don't know the name of that pub was on the corner at the bottom
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ged View Post
    And we still don't know the name of that pub was on the corner at the bottom
    Ha,Ha, it's a mysterwy....as Toyah once sang!!

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    Is Walton Stables off the slip road onto Queens Drive by the flyover?

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    "Sadly for Brodie (and Liverpool), the system of using factory-produced panels failed because of trade union opposition"

    That is new to me. Sounds likes another right-wing myth that blames all our failing on trade unions.
    The amount of people that blame the decline of Liverpool Docks on unions is unbelievable. A BBC researcher, a southerner, once contacted me about a TV prog about Liverpool and he was going on about unions and strikes being the prime cause of the ports decline. I told him that they were the symptom not the cause. Pointing him to the over investment in the south east and the money poured into London to make it a super-city at our expense. I refused to deal with him.
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    I never heard about the Unions bit before either but they didn't really take off as such though the much maligned boot estate used something similar and we all know what happened there.
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    Quote Originally Posted by pablo42 View Post
    Great stuff Colin. Never heard of him before.
    He designed the boulevards in New Deli
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ged View Post
    Brodie had a self financing idea for the road network by selling off the roadside land frontages for housing.
    This was copied from the Metroland, the commuter rail lines run into the fields north of London. The Metropolitan Railway certainly looked to profit from the rail operations as much from house building along the line.

    The Met was the ONLY example of private money being used to fund the rail infrastructure by selling off land that rose in value. This model could have been refined to serve everyone's interests. It wasn't.

    Brodie did something similar with roads, with trams on them. but organised by a public body. This was taking inflated land values because of the infrastructure of roads/trams and using it to fund the building of the infrastructure. Once again this success model was not copied.

    But, it only provided funds for the construction, not the running maintenance. Full Land Value Taxation would solve the lot and provide top class infrastructure - as Hong Kong and Harrisburg found out.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rhoobarb View Post
    Is Walton Stables off the slip road onto Queens Drive by the flyover?
    Hi Rhoobarb, it is just by the Flyover (on the side going down Queens Drive across from the Church). Not easy to spot - it is behind railings - and it is not particularly impressive (more like a garage block).

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    Quote Originally Posted by Colin Wilkinson View Post
    Hi Rhoobarb, it is just by the Flyover (on the side going down Queens Drive across from the Church). Not easy to spot - it is behind railings - and it is not particularly impressive (more like a garage block).
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